Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-06-02 Thread Matthias Julius
Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net writes:

 Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net writes:

 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.0~beta2-1
 of my package krecipes.

 It builds these binary packages:
 krecipes   - recipes manager for KDE
 krecipes-data - recipes manager for KDE - data files
 krecipes-doc - recipes manager for KDE - documentation

  Krecipes is a KDE application designed to manage recipes. It can help you to
  do your shopping list, search through your recipes to find what you can do
  with available ingredients and a diet helper. It can also import or export
  recipes from files in various format (eg RecipeML or Meal-Master) or from
  databases.

 The package appears to be almost (see below) lintian clean.

 The upload would fix these bugs: 473367, 478030, 513860

 The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
 - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes
 - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
 contrib non-free
 - dget 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes/krecipes_1.0~beta2-1.dsc

 I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

 I have to give you some background information.  Maintainer for
 krecipes is actually Debian KDE Extras Team
 pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org.  Unfortunately, this is list
 is mostly dead except from forwarded messages from BTS or PTS.  A
 number of mails I (and others) sent there got no response.

 Krecipes has not been maintained for over 2 years and the MIA team has
 requested the removal of the only Uploader a couple of months ago
 (#513860).  Therefore, I would consider krecipes effectively orphaned,
 allthough not officially.  Are there any formal steps I should
 undertake to take over maintainership for this package?

 I would really appreciate if someone could either help me to get my
 krecipes package into Debian.

Two weeks have passed again and I would like to bring the krecipes
package back to the attention of potential sponsors.

So, if anyone here is interested in seeing krecipes back in testing,
please help me to get it there.

Matthias


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net writes:

 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.0~beta2-1
 of my package krecipes.

 It builds these binary packages:
 krecipes   - recipes manager for KDE
 krecipes-data - recipes manager for KDE - data files
 krecipes-doc - recipes manager for KDE - documentation

  Krecipes is a KDE application designed to manage recipes. It can help you to
  do your shopping list, search through your recipes to find what you can do
  with available ingredients and a diet helper. It can also import or export
  recipes from files in various format (eg RecipeML or Meal-Master) or from
  databases.

 The package appears to be almost (see below) lintian clean.

 The upload would fix these bugs: 473367, 478030, 513860

 The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
 - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes
 - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
 contrib non-free
 - dget 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes/krecipes_1.0~beta2-1.dsc

 I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

 I have to give you some background information.  Maintainer for
 krecipes is actually Debian KDE Extras Team
 pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org.  Unfortunately, this is list
 is mostly dead except from forwarded messages from BTS or PTS.  A
 number of mails I (and others) sent there got no response.

 Krecipes has not been maintained for over 2 years and the MIA team has
 requested the removal of the only Uploader a couple of months ago
 (#513860).  Therefore, I would consider krecipes effectively orphaned,
 allthough not officially.  Are there any formal steps I should
 undertake to take over maintainership for this package?

I would really appreciate if someone could either help me to get my
krecipes package into Debian.

I am just not quite sure whether it is OK to hijack a package like
that from an unresponsive packaging team.  Should I ask QA to orphan
the package?

Matthias


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
2009/5/19 Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net:
 Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net writes:

 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.0~beta2-1
 of my package krecipes.

 It builds these binary packages:
 krecipes   - recipes manager for KDE
 krecipes-data - recipes manager for KDE - data files
 krecipes-doc - recipes manager for KDE - documentation

  Krecipes is a KDE application designed to manage recipes. It can help you to
  do your shopping list, search through your recipes to find what you can do
  with available ingredients and a diet helper. It can also import or export
  recipes from files in various format (eg RecipeML or Meal-Master) or from
  databases.

 The package appears to be almost (see below) lintian clean.

 The upload would fix these bugs: 473367, 478030, 513860

 The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
 - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes
 - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
 contrib non-free
 - dget 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes/krecipes_1.0~beta2-1.dsc

 I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

 I have to give you some background information.  Maintainer for
 krecipes is actually Debian KDE Extras Team
 pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org.  Unfortunately, this is list
 is mostly dead except from forwarded messages from BTS or PTS.  A
 number of mails I (and others) sent there got no response.

 Krecipes has not been maintained for over 2 years and the MIA team has
 requested the removal of the only Uploader a couple of months ago
 (#513860).  Therefore, I would consider krecipes effectively orphaned,
 allthough not officially.  Are there any formal steps I should
 undertake to take over maintainership for this package?

 I would really appreciate if someone could either help me to get my
 krecipes package into Debian.

 I am just not quite sure whether it is OK to hijack a package like
 that from an unresponsive packaging team.  Should I ask QA to orphan
 the package?

 Matthias



I'm not a DD, but I think the correct way is to ping MIA team about it
and then after 2 weeks time you ping them again and they do a little
chat and come up with a solutions usally in your favor. Try that,
cause they record stuff in wnpp and then you can go on and adopt
stuff.

i think the email was m...@debian.org but double check that
(Developer's Reference / New maintainer's guide one of them had a
chapter dealing with unresponsive developers.)

-- 
With best regards


Dmitrijs Ledkovs (for short Dima),
Ледков Дмитрий Юрьевич


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-05-19, Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net wrote:
 I would really appreciate if someone could either help me to get my
 krecipes package into Debian.

 I am just not quite sure whether it is OK to hijack a package like
 that from an unresponsive packaging team.  Should I ask QA to orphan
 the package?

KDE-Extra team has already said go ahead to at least one person being
interested in taking over krecipes.

(José Manuel Santamaría Lema)

Most kde communication happens in irc channels.

/Sune


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Barry deFreese

Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:

2009/5/19 Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net:
  

Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net writes:



I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.0~beta2-1
of my package krecipes.

It builds these binary packages:
krecipes   - recipes manager for KDE
krecipes-data - recipes manager for KDE - data files
krecipes-doc - recipes manager for KDE - documentation

 Krecipes is a KDE application designed to manage recipes. It can help you to
 do your shopping list, search through your recipes to find what you can do
 with available ingredients and a diet helper. It can also import or export
 recipes from files in various format (eg RecipeML or Meal-Master) or from
 databases.

The package appears to be almost (see below) lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 473367, 478030, 513860

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes/krecipes_1.0~beta2-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

I have to give you some background information.  Maintainer for
krecipes is actually Debian KDE Extras Team
pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org.  Unfortunately, this is list
is mostly dead except from forwarded messages from BTS or PTS.  A
number of mails I (and others) sent there got no response.

Krecipes has not been maintained for over 2 years and the MIA team has
requested the removal of the only Uploader a couple of months ago
(#513860).  Therefore, I would consider krecipes effectively orphaned,
allthough not officially.  Are there any formal steps I should
undertake to take over maintainership for this package?
  

I would really appreciate if someone could either help me to get my
krecipes package into Debian.

I am just not quite sure whether it is OK to hijack a package like
that from an unresponsive packaging team.  Should I ask QA to orphan
the package?

Matthias





I'm not a DD, but I think the correct way is to ping MIA team about it
and then after 2 weeks time you ping them again and they do a little
chat and come up with a solutions usally in your favor. Try that,
cause they record stuff in wnpp and then you can go on and adopt
stuff.

i think the email was m...@debian.org but double check that
(Developer's Reference / New maintainer's guide one of them had a
chapter dealing with unresponsive developers.)

  
The problem there is that you can't MIA a whole team.  I'm currently 
talking with one of the KDE folks and someone was already supposed to 
pick up krecipes so I'm trying to find out.


Thanks,

Barry deFreese
Debian QA


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Barry deFreese

Matthias Julius wrote:

Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net writes:

  

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.0~beta2-1
of my package krecipes.

It builds these binary packages:
krecipes   - recipes manager for KDE
krecipes-data - recipes manager for KDE - data files
krecipes-doc - recipes manager for KDE - documentation

 Krecipes is a KDE application designed to manage recipes. It can help you to
 do your shopping list, search through your recipes to find what you can do
 with available ingredients and a diet helper. It can also import or export
 recipes from files in various format (eg RecipeML or Meal-Master) or from
 databases.

The package appears to be almost (see below) lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 473367, 478030, 513860

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/krecipes/krecipes_1.0~beta2-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

I have to give you some background information.  Maintainer for
krecipes is actually Debian KDE Extras Team
pkg-kde-ext...@lists.alioth.debian.org.  Unfortunately, this is list
is mostly dead except from forwarded messages from BTS or PTS.  A
number of mails I (and others) sent there got no response.

Krecipes has not been maintained for over 2 years and the MIA team has
requested the removal of the only Uploader a couple of months ago
(#513860).  Therefore, I would consider krecipes effectively orphaned,
allthough not officially.  Are there any formal steps I should
undertake to take over maintainership for this package?



I would really appreciate if someone could either help me to get my
krecipes package into Debian.

I am just not quite sure whether it is OK to hijack a package like
that from an unresponsive packaging team.  Should I ask QA to orphan
the package?

Matthias


  

Matthias,

Let me ask about it, it seems reasonable to orphan it.

Thanks,

Barry deFreese
Debian QA


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:

 On 2009-05-19, Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net wrote:
 I would really appreciate if someone could either help me to get my
 krecipes package into Debian.

 I am just not quite sure whether it is OK to hijack a package like
 that from an unresponsive packaging team.  Should I ask QA to orphan
 the package?

 KDE-Extra team has already said go ahead to at least one person being
 interested in taking over krecipes.

 (José Manuel Santamaría Lema)

Yes, he has taken over krecipes upstream.  And he is working on
krecipes 2.0 (KDE4).

In
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-talk/2009-April/001247.html
he proposed for me to take care of krecipes for now and to co-maintain
it after 2.0 is ready.


 Most kde communication happens in irc channels.

Which is a bit unfortunate because not everyone is living in the same
timezone.  I like the asynchronous way mailinglists work.

I just noticed that he actually cross-posted his messages to
pkg-kde-talk.  There seems to be a little more human presence.  Next
time I'll post there.

Matthias


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Barry deFreese bdefre...@verizon.net writes:

 Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
 I'm not a DD, but I think the correct way is to ping MIA team about it
 and then after 2 weeks time you ping them again and they do a little
 chat and come up with a solutions usally in your favor. Try that,
 cause they record stuff in wnpp and then you can go on and adopt
 stuff.

 i think the email was m...@debian.org but double check that
 (Developer's Reference / New maintainer's guide one of them had a
 chapter dealing with unresponsive developers.)

   
 The problem there is that you can't MIA a whole team.

Especially since there are a number of active members.  Unfortunately,
nobody seems to read the team's list or care to reply to mails sent
there.

Matthias


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-05-19, Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net wrote:
 I just noticed that he actually cross-posted his messages to
 pkg-kde-talk.  There seems to be a little more human presence.  Next
 time I'll post there.

That's *NOT* a sponsering list, but sending sponsoring requests there is
the straight road into getting fully ignored.

/Sune


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-05-19, Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net wrote:
 Barry deFreese bdefre...@verizon.net writes:

 Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
 I'm not a DD, but I think the correct way is to ping MIA team about it
 and then after 2 weeks time you ping them again and they do a little
 chat and come up with a solutions usally in your favor. Try that,
 cause they record stuff in wnpp and then you can go on and adopt
 stuff.

 i think the email was m...@debian.org but double check that
 (Developer's Reference / New maintainer's guide one of them had a
 chapter dealing with unresponsive developers.)

   
 The problem there is that you can't MIA a whole team.

 Especially since there are a number of active members.  Unfortunately,
 nobody seems to read the team's list or care to reply to mails sent
 there.

I don't know how close you follow debian development, but many members
of  the debian kde people have been quite busy over the last month trying 
to get kde in testing updated.

We do all have a finite time, and krecipe has not been blocking anything
for the work.

/Sune


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
On Martes, 19 de Mayo de 2009 23:43:50 Sune Vuorela escribió:
 On 2009-05-19, Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net wrote:
  Barry deFreese bdefre...@verizon.net writes:
  Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
  I'm not a DD, but I think the correct way is to ping MIA team about it
  and then after 2 weeks time you ping them again and they do a little
  chat and come up with a solutions usally in your favor. Try that,
  cause they record stuff in wnpp and then you can go on and adopt
  stuff.
 
  i think the email was m...@debian.org but double check that
  (Developer's Reference / New maintainer's guide one of them had a
  chapter dealing with unresponsive developers.)
 
  The problem there is that you can't MIA a whole team.
 
  Especially since there are a number of active members.  Unfortunately,
  nobody seems to read the team's list or care to reply to mails sent
  there.

 I don't know how close you follow debian development, but many members
 of  the debian kde people have been quite busy over the last month trying
 to get kde in testing updated.

 We do all have a finite time, and krecipe has not been blocking anything
 for the work.

 /Sune

Yep, I guess is right to RFS here instead of pkg-kde-extras, and potential 
soponsors have lots of work now.

Matthias, I think you did your homework, so just be patient and wait ;)


Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:

 On 2009-05-19, Matthias Julius m...@julius-net.net wrote:
 I just noticed that he actually cross-posted his messages to
 pkg-kde-talk.  There seems to be a little more human presence.  Next
 time I'll post there.

 That's *NOT* a sponsering list, but sending sponsoring requests there is
 the straight road into getting fully ignored.

OK, I'll keep that in mind.  Thanks, this will avoid some frustration.

My motivation to post to pkg-kde-extras was the often read
recommendation to join some packaging team and then ask the team
members (list) for sponsoring.

Matthias


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Re: RFS: krecipes (updated package)

2009-05-19 Thread Matthias Julius
José Manuel Santamaría Lema panfa...@gmail.com writes:

 On Martes, 19 de Mayo de 2009 23:43:50 Sune Vuorela escribió:

 I don't know how close you follow debian development, but many members
 of  the debian kde people have been quite busy over the last month trying
 to get kde in testing updated.

 We do all have a finite time, and krecipe has not been blocking anything
 for the work.

Sure, I perfectly understand this.  And I certainly don't want to put
any pressure on anyone and I don't expect anyone to jump on my
command.  This is all supposed to be fun after all.  But, it is also
nice to get some sort of a response to a question.


 Yep, I guess is right to RFS here instead of pkg-kde-extras, and potential 
 soponsors have lots of work now.

 Matthias, I think you did your homework, so just be patient and wait ;)

No worries.  I just wanted to bring myself back into people's mind.

Matthias


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