Re: Question about gpg key.

2012-01-11 Thread Boris Pek
   What should be my next steps? Should I notify somewhere in Debian about 
 new key
   or just sign my packages by this key in the next uploads?
   Naturally, your key will have to be uploaded to a public key server. See 
 this
   wiki page for more [1].
   Get your key signed by other Debian developers if you want to become a 
 Debian
   Developer at some point. See this list to find someone in your area to 
 sign it [2].
   Follow the instructions in [3] to get your new key into the Debian keyring.

 I have read all related documentation before send the message.
 Procedure [4] affects only DD. But I am not even DM now.
 And it seems like the key of a sponsored maintainer does not matter and it can
 be changed in any moment. Because only one important thing in upload to the 
 main
 repo is the sign of sponsor (DD) which is checked by bot.
 Correct me if I am wrong.

 That's why I asked the question.

In other words.
Should I sign my new key by old one or make any other action?
Or can I just use new key as it is?

Best regards,
Boris


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Re: Question about gpg key.

2012-01-11 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Boris Pek dijo [Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:02:28AM +0200]:
  I have read all related documentation before send the message.
  Procedure [4] affects only DD. But I am not even DM now.
  And it seems like the key of a sponsored maintainer does not matter and it 
  can
  be changed in any moment. Because only one important thing in upload to the 
  main
  repo is the sign of sponsor (DD) which is checked by bot.
  Correct me if I am wrong.
 
  That's why I asked the question.
 
 In other words.
 Should I sign my new key by old one or make any other action?
 Or can I just use new key as it is?

 keyring-maint hat on 

Sorry for the delay, as I should have answered to your question
earlier on.

Yes, if you want to get closer to Debian (that is, be able to do any
uploads by yourself), you _do_ need to move to a 4096R key. But, as to
this specific question: If you are not interested in becoming DM or
DD, nobody will object - If I were to be your sponsor, I could do
everything without you even having a GPG key. A sponsor must not
blindly build and upload, but check everything as if it were his own
package. (Of course, once you have a working relation with a DD/DM
that sponsors you, _and_ you use a GPG key regardless of its strength,
said DD/DM will start trusting your work)

But anyway - Create a new key. Try to get it signed. Even if the old
one has many signatures, start getting people (specially those better
connected) to sign the new one. *Do* sign the new key with the old
one, to ensure people who already know you it is still you doing
this.


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Re: Question about gpg key.

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Shuler
On 01/11/2012 02:02 AM, Boris Pek wrote:
   What should be my next steps? Should I notify somewhere in Debian about 
 new key
   or just sign my packages by this key in the next uploads?
   Naturally, your key will have to be uploaded to a public key server. See 
 this
   wiki page for more [1].
   Get your key signed by other Debian developers if you want to become a 
 Debian
   Developer at some point. See this list to find someone in your area to 
 sign it [2].
   Follow the instructions in [3] to get your new key into the Debian 
 keyring.

 I have read all related documentation before send the message.
 Procedure [4] affects only DD. But I am not even DM now.
 And it seems like the key of a sponsored maintainer does not matter and it 
 can
 be changed in any moment. Because only one important thing in upload to the 
 main
 repo is the sign of sponsor (DD) which is checked by bot.
 Correct me if I am wrong.

 That's why I asked the question.
 
 In other words.
 Should I sign my new key by old one or make any other action?
 Or can I just use new key as it is?

Since it hasn't been mentioned in this thread, Ana's page on creating a
new 4096R key and configuring gnupg properly was extremely helpful to me:

http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/05/10/creating-new-gpgkey/

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Re: Question about gpg key.

2012-01-11 Thread Boris Pek
Hi,

Thank you very much for replies.

 If I were to be your sponsor, I could do
 everything without you even having a GPG key.

Hmm, it looks like a very unusual way of maintaining packages. Sponsored
maintainers usually use mentors.debian.net and they must sign their packages
before upload.

 But anyway - Create a new key. Try to get it signed. Even if the old
 one has many signatures, start getting people (specially those better
 connected) to sign the new one. *Do* sign the new key with the old
 one, to ensure people who already know you it is still you doing
 this.

Sorry but you miss the beginning of this thread [1]. I have the new key already.
Following the replies I understand that there is no necessary in additional
actions when sponsored maintainer decides to change his (not signed) key.

 Since it hasn't been mentioned in this thread, Ana's page on creating a
 new 4096R key and configuring gnupg properly was extremely helpful to me:
 http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/05/10/creating-new-gpgkey/

Yes, this link is present in wiki page. I didn't use these instructions but they
look very useful.

  Should I sign my new key by old one or make any other action?

 Assuming your two keys have the same User IDs on them:

 Signing the new key with the old one is a way of making a strong
 cryptographic assertion that the holder of the old key believes that the
 new key is legitimate.

 If that's the case, i don't see why you wouldn't want to make such an
 assertion.

  Or can I just use new key as it is?

 You can of course use it as it is; but making the assertion mentioned
 above (and writing and publishing a transition statement signed by both
 keys, e.g. http://fifthhorseman.net/key-transition-2007-06-15.txt) will
 help to convince some of the folks who signed your old key to sign the
 new one.

Ok, I understand this schema. But in my case nobody signed by the old key and
nobody have signed it. So there is no reason to sign my new key by the old one.

Best regards,
Boris


[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2012/01/threads.html#00071


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Re: Question about gpg key.

2012-01-11 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Boris Pek tehnic...@yandex.ru, 2012-01-11, 21:56:
If I were to be your sponsor, I could do everything without you even 
having a GPG key.
Hmm, it looks like a very unusual way of maintaining packages. 
Sponsored maintainers usually use mentors.debian.net and they must sign 
their packages before upload.


That's an implementation detail of mentors.d.n that sponsors don't 
really need to care about. :)


Besides, uploading to mentors.d.n is not the only (and likely not even 
the predominant one) way to share your work with a sponsor. For many 
teams[0], the preferred way of code exchange is a VCS.



[0] Where team can mean a big packaging team as well as a 
mentoree+sponsor tandem.


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