Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
[ I feel thee to add the Cc to the bug back to note the reply to the question which was in the bug.. ] Hi, On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 02:07:18PM +0200, Andreas Brogle wrote: > Am Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:46:05 +0200 > schrieb Rene Engelhard : > > Hello Rene, > > > A 5.2.2 with this backported is at > > http://people.debian.org/~rene/libreoffice/5.2.2? > > Did a > dpkg --force-all -i libreoffice-gtk3_5.2.2-rc2-1_amd64.deb > > The rest of the libreoffice still is 5.2.1-3. > > There is no difference in speed if libreoffice-gtk3 is installed or > not, will say it is fast now. Good. Regards, Rene
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Hi, On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 04:08:08PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > That said, there's > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=29c55564070aa1fa7846448a6ca90fe47c38bd0a > since a short rime in addition to the orginal backported patch.. (referencing > the same bug..) > > Wondering whether we should backport it.. (Currently only scheduled for 5.3, > whereas the original fix is now also in the tree for 5.2.3...), but will > definitely wait until the original, more important fix reaches testing. A 5.2.2 with this backported is at http://people.debian.org/~rene/libreoffice/5.2.2? Can you confirm it's faster now compared to 5.2.1-3? Regards, Rene
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:38:02PM +0200, Andreas Brogle wrote: > fluidly work isn't possible. You have to wait everytime a dialog box > opens. I leave libreoffice-gtk3 uninstalled. I hope others will find If you need a loads of opening dialogues, you do somethig wrong, I'd say. For the other bug in GNOME3 (Format->Character) - people should use Styles for reoccuring things and not hard formatting. Similar in your case, probably, But as said, your claim that "it's not impossible to work fluidly" is wrong, the dialog is there fast enough in cases you need it. IMHO. (And see my other reply.) Regards, Rene
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Hi, On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 03:10:26PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:33:09AM +0200, Andreas Brogle wrote: > > > Very impessively is selecting one cell in the empty calc document. > > > Press the right mouse button, then select Format cells. > > > The duration until the dialog box appears is about one minute. > > > > Since libreoffice-gtk3 5.2.1-3 the duration for the action above is > > about 3s now. Without libreoffice-gtk3 installed it is immediatly. > > So 60s->3s is a big improvement, no? And I think 3s is a bit slow but > bearable... > > I'd personally consider this fixed.. That said, there's https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=29c55564070aa1fa7846448a6ca90fe47c38bd0a since a short rime in addition to the orginal backported patch.. (referencing the same bug..) Wondering whether we should backport it.. (Currently only scheduled for 5.3, whereas the original fix is now also in the tree for 5.2.3...), but will definitely wait until the original, more important fix reaches testing. Regards, Rene
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Hello, fluidly work isn't possible. You have to wait everytime a dialog box opens. I leave libreoffice-gtk3 uninstalled. I hope others will find this thread, are not annoyed and disappointed about the speed of libreoffice. Best regards, Andreas
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Hi, On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:33:09AM +0200, Andreas Brogle wrote: > > Very impessively is selecting one cell in the empty calc document. > > Press the right mouse button, then select Format cells. > > The duration until the dialog box appears is about one minute. > > Since libreoffice-gtk3 5.2.1-3 the duration for the action above is > about 3s now. Without libreoffice-gtk3 installed it is immediatly. So 60s->3s is a big improvement, no? And I think 3s is a bit slow but bearable... I'd personally consider this fixed.. Regards, Rene
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
> Very impessively is selecting one cell in the empty calc document. > Press the right mouse button, then select Format cells. > The duration until the dialog box appears is about one minute. Since libreoffice-gtk3 5.2.1-3 the duration for the action above is about 3s now. Without libreoffice-gtk3 installed it is immediatly. Regards, Andreas
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Am Sun, 4 Sep 2016 12:29:03 +0200 schrieb Rene Engelhard : > Will be in 5.2.1-1. Hi, thank you very much. That's why I like open source :-) Will test it, when the patch comes in Debian Sid and give a feedback if it works. Best regards, Andreas
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Am Sun, 4 Sep 2016 11:44:00 +0200 schrieb Rene Engelhard : Hello, > Well, but you installed libreoffice-gtk3 manually. (Or do you have > libreoffice-gnome installed even for your xfce?) What do other users > of your desktop use? Can't remember, I guess the package was recommendet by another one. My family has the choice to use the desktops kde, gnome or xfce by lxdm. They voluntarily selected xfce, because it is fast, simple and clear. > You don't need to, given you are the admin of the machine, not your > wife and your daughter. Hey, easy, we are living in patriarchal, hierarchical structure ;-) I teached my daughter to do an upgrade from time to time herself. That is better than doing nonsense with the machine, as playing games all the day. Let's put aside the details, it seems to be the broader topic of the two parallel universes of programmers and users. ;-) > > I assume there is some kind of mechanism of libreoffice to detect > > the environment it is running in. Would it be a great thing to say > > libreoffice to use -gtk2 if running under xfce and to forbid to use > > -gtk3? I can't imagine that would need more than minimal efford. > > Yes, there is. O.K., that is to high for me to help myself. But such negligibilities often are relevant for users to keep on that ugly windows. Best regards, Andreas
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Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
tag 836531 + pending
thanks
Hi,
On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 11:44:00AM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> But yes, we probably could add a new "fallback list" there just for Xfce.
% cat debian/patches/xfce-fallback-list.diff
--- libreoffice-5.2.1.orig/vcl/unx/generic/plugadapt/salplug.cxx
+++ libreoffice-5.2.1/vcl/unx/generic/plugadapt/salplug.cxx
@@ -187,6 +187,11 @@ static SalInstance* autodetect_plugin()
"gtk3", "gtk", "gen", nullptr
};
+static const char* const pXFCEFallbackList[] =
+{
+"gtk", "gen", nullptr
+};
+
static const char* const pHeadlessFallbackList[] =
{
"svp", nullptr
@@ -201,10 +206,11 @@ static SalInstance* autodetect_plugin()
pList = pHeadlessFallbackList;
else if ( desktop == DESKTOP_GNOME ||
desktop == DESKTOP_UNITY ||
- desktop == DESKTOP_XFCE ||
desktop == DESKTOP_KDE3 ||
desktop == DESKTOP_MATE )
pList = pStandardFallbackList;
+else if ( desktop == DESKTOP_XFCE)
+ pList = pXFCEFallbackList;
else if( desktop == DESKTOP_TDE )
pList = pTDEFallbackList;
else if( desktop == DESKTOP_KDE4 || desktop == DESKTOP_KDE5 )
Will be in 5.2.1-1.
Regards,
Rene
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Hi, On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Andreas Brogle wrote: > This problem is not as easy as you describe it. > For a "normal" user it is very difficult to find it out. Since a system > uprade libreoffice is unusable slow. What would you think what is the People doing dist-upgrades of the machine are admins... ;) > reason for? It took me a long time to realize it is a libreoffice-xfce > problem. I searched the internet up and down and couldn't find any hint. Well, but you installed libreoffice-gtk3 manually. (Or do you have libreoffice-gnome installed even for your xfce?) What do other users of your desktop use? But yeah, stuff like this is hard to debug. > How shall I convince others, especially my wife and daughter, to use > libreoffice instead of Microsoft Office if they tell me they don't like > it, because it is slow? They use xfce, too? You don't need to, given you are the admin of the machine, not your wife and your daughter. > I assume there is some kind of mechanism of libreoffice to detect the > environment it is running in. Would it be a great thing to say > libreoffice to use -gtk2 if running under xfce and to forbid to use > -gtk3? I can't imagine that would need more than minimal efford. Yes, there is. https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/vcl/unx/generic/desktopdetect/desktopdetector.cxx There problem here AFAICS is that Xfce is also detected as GNOME somehow (othwise you probably wouldn't even get Gtk2 UI).. https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/vcl/unx/generic/plugadapt/salplug.cxx But yes, we probably could add a new "fallback list" there just for Xfce. But for now (you of course need libreoffice-gtk2 installed), try export SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk (export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=xfce probably won't work given the "fallback list" above) Regards, Rene
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Am Sat, 3 Sep 2016 21:45:35 +0200 schrieb Rene Engelhard : Hello Rene, thank you for your fast resonse. This problem is not as easy as you describe it. For a "normal" user it is very difficult to find it out. Since a system uprade libreoffice is unusable slow. What would you think what is the reason for? It took me a long time to realize it is a libreoffice-xfce problem. I searched the internet up and down and couldn't find any hint. How shall I convince others, especially my wife and daughter, to use libreoffice instead of Microsoft Office if they tell me they don't like it, because it is slow? What is my suggestion? I assume there is some kind of mechanism of libreoffice to detect the environment it is running in. Would it be a great thing to say libreoffice to use -gtk2 if running under xfce and to forbid to use -gtk3? I can't imagine that would need more than minimal efford. Best Regards, Andreas
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 09:20:01PM +0200, Andreas Brogle wrote: > this problem only occurs with libreoffice-gtk3 installed and XFCE4. > The speed is normal when using KDE, it is normal too with XFCE4 and > libreoffice-gtk3 deinstalled. So? And what do you suggest? There's a easy workaround: use -gtk2? Because XFCE4 is GTk2... I don't believe we should add a Breaks: on xfce4 to libreoffice-gtk3... > It is reproducible. Install libreoffice-gtk3, start xfce, start libreoffice. > Open an empty writer or calc document, it doesn't care. > Very impessively is selecting one cell in the empty calc document. > Press the right mouse button, then select Format cells. > The duration until the dialog box appears is about one minute. > This is only an example, every action is very, very slow. This of course shouldn't happen, but... As long as there's stuff around using "old" Gtk (xfce, cinnamon(?)) and stuff with "new" Gtk (gnome, mate)... Regards, Rene
Bug#836531: libreoffice-gtk3: LibreOffice is unusable slow with XFCE4
Package: libreoffice-gtk3 Version: 1:5.2.0-2 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, this problem only occurs with libreoffice-gtk3 installed and XFCE4. The speed is normal when using KDE, it is normal too with XFCE4 and libreoffice-gtk3 deinstalled. It is reproducible. Install libreoffice-gtk3, start xfce, start libreoffice. Open an empty writer or calc document, it doesn't care. Very impessively is selecting one cell in the empty calc document. Press the right mouse button, then select Format cells. The duration until the dialog box appears is about one minute. This is only an example, every action is very, very slow. -- System Information: Debian Release: stretch/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 4.7.0-2.slh.2-aptosid-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT) Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) Versions of packages libreoffice-gtk3 depends on: ii dpkg 1.18.10 ii libatk1.0-0 2.21.90-2 ii libc6 2.24-1 ii libcairo-gobject2 1.14.6-1+b1 ii libcairo2 1.14.6-1+b1 ii libdbus-1-3 1.10.10-1 ii libdbus-glib-1-2 0.106-1 ii libgcc1 1:6.2.0-2 ii libgdk-pixbuf2.0-02.34.0-1 ii libgl1-mesa-glx [libgl1] 11.2.2-1 ii libglew1.13 1.13.0-2 ii libglib2.0-0 2.49.6-1 ii libglu1-mesa [libglu1]9.0.0-2.1 ii libgtk-3-03.21.5-3 ii libice6 2:1.0.9-1+b1 ii libpango-1.0-01.40.2-1 ii libpangocairo-1.0-0 1.40.2-1 ii libreoffice-core 1:5.2.0-2 ii libsm62:1.2.2-1+b1 ii libstdc++66.2.0-2 ii libx11-6 2:1.6.3-1 ii libxext6 2:1.3.3-1 ii uno-libs3 5.2.0-2 ii ure 5.2.0-2 Versions of packages libreoffice-gtk3 recommends: ii libreoffice-style-tango 1:5.2.0-2 Versions of packages libreoffice-gtk3 suggests: ii libreofficekit-data 1:5.2.0-2 -- no debconf information
