Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Raul Miller
You are the release manager. File the bugs, declare them release critical [...] Anthony Towns wrote: Okay. Whatever. I really don't have the patience for -policy anymore. On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:17:48PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: You know, neither do I. Manoj, have fun waiting until

Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: You are the release manager. File the bugs, declare them release critical [...] Okay. Whatever. I really don't have the patience for -policy anymore. I agree with Manoj on this. task packages exist potato and woody. That means we have to

Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 11:55:21AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Sun, 20 May 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: You are the release manager. File the bugs, declare them release critical [...] Okay. Whatever. I really don't have the patience for -policy anymore. I agree with Manoj on this. task

Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On Mon, 21 May 2001 18:04:42 +1000 Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 11:55:21AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: Upgrading from potato to woody and beyond works fine, nothing breaks, you merely don't get your tasks to upgrade cleanly by simply using apt. Isn't that

Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 01:10:41AM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 11:55:21AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: Upgrading from potato to woody and beyond works fine, nothing breaks, you merely don't get your tasks to upgrade cleanly by simply using apt. Isn't that generally

Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Anthony Towns wrote: You are the release manager. File the bugs, declare them release critical [...] Okay. Whatever. I really don't have the patience for -policy anymore. Joey You know, neither do I. Ah. The Things aren't

Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Raul == Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raul That's what change logs are for. Perhaps there should be a Raul release-oriented changelog? Raul It does seem reasonable that we should have some sort of Raul queuing mechanism to park proposed policy changes as they're Raul tried out, but

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-21 Thread Patrik Hagglund
! The standard shell interpreter `tt/bin/sh/tt' is a ! symbolic link to a POSIX compatible shell. Since the POSIX ! standard for shells leaves important areas unspecified, ! wherever it is lacking, `tt/bin/sh/tt' shall follow the ! emconsensus behavior/em of

Re: Bug#97755: [PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 19.V.2001 at 11:27 Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Anton Zinoviev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example what display manager we will choose: gdm, kdm, wdm or xdm? Maybe gdm, because it provides session menu, but it looks to me a little buggy. I'm giving this only as an example. Surely

Bug#96873: virtual-package names, ladspa-host and ladspa-plugin

2001-05-21 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: I would like to propose ladspa-host and ladspa-plugin as names of virtual packages which ladspa-host: application capable of using ladspa-plugins to process audio data ladspa-plugin: provides plug-in libraries in accordance to

Bug#96873: virtual-package names, ladspa-host and ladspa-plugin

2001-05-21 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:34:48AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: I would like to propose ladspa-host and ladspa-plugin as names of virtual packages which ladspa-host: application capable of using ladspa-plugins to process audio

Bug#96873: virtual-package names, ladspa-host and ladspa-plugin

2001-05-21 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: Well, to elaborate a bit more, a ladspa plugin package would not depend on any shared library, or sometimes libc/libm. But that would not be a very informative dependency information. Such a package would usually be useful only when

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-21 Thread Chris Waters
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.4.0 Severity: wishlist There is a bit of a glaring bug in policy. An earlier attempt to address this was made in #60461, but it seems like people found that one confusing, and there has been no progress on it. This proposal is intended to supersede #60461,

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:43:08AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: --- debian-policy.sgml~ Mon May 21 10:45:51 2001 +++ debian-policy.sgmlMon May 21 10:54:35 2001 @@ -3982,8 +3982,8 @@ headingLinux File system Structure/heading p - The location of all

Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 06:04:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Please go back and reread the thread about this immediately after potato's release: the problem with tasks as they existed for potato was that they make it very hard to cope with RC bugs in packages in a task. If any one package

Re: Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: Something more like ``The location of all installed files and directories must comply with the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, except where indicated otherwise (or where it's just plain stupid).'' Perfect. Let's do it! (I might suggest