Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread Brian May
Anthony == Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Anthony Consider, eg, #90676. What is the problem here? If a program tries to read an input from STDIN, then IMHO it is not debconf compliant, as you will still have problems with automatic installations. This is just one bug I have

Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, VALETTE Eric wrote: I have been discussing quite a lot on different debian mailing list on a way to automate debian installation. The final and almost unfiform answer was to use debconf in non-interactive mode. The technical reason is that due to use of tty the following

Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:35:17PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: It's some work for a maintainer to convert a package that simply uses things like cat EOM for interaction with the user to debconf - and if the maintainer is for any reason not willing to convert his package (he might even refuse a

Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread VALETTE Eric
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:35:17PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: If debconf isn't good enough that everyone's not using it voluntarily (lilo has been converted *from* debconf), then the obvious thing to do is to improve debconf, not try to force

Re: Bug#122817: base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile

2001-12-07 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 122817 debian-policy severity 122817 wishlist thanks On 7 Dec 2001, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pena wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0 Severity: important Tag: patch First of all, I'm setting this bug as important due to the fact that, even if it works as is some packages

Processed: Re: Bug#122817: base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile

2001-12-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 122817 debian-policy Bug#122817: base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile Bug reassigned from package `base-files' to `debian-policy'. severity 122817 wishlist Bug#122817: base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in

Re: Bug#122817: base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile

2001-12-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:20:19PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: The profile.d thing has been suggested several times (see the archived bugs for the base-files package) and I have always rejected it because it is against the spirit of policy when it says: (..) If we followed this, no

Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 12:19:51AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: To pseudo-quote Anthony Towns on this one: policy is not a stick to hit lazy maintainers with. Oh, come now. *Anything* can be a stick to hit lazy maintainers with. Just so long as they get beaten. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Bug#122817: base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile

2001-12-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:04:39PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: You are wrong here. Sample: - I want to provide a package with a lot of useful bash functions/aliases w/o changing any program Write scripts and put them in /usr/local/bin. - I want my users to have a

Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread Massimo Dal Zotto
That is *completely* the wrong attitude. We're all volunteers; we're not here to be forced to do anything. Cheers, aj, wondering if he's going to have to do the must rant yet again -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save

Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Massimo Dal Zotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wrote an automatic installer (which worked) for slink, but I had to spend weeks to adapt the postinst scripts of debian packages to it, and I didn't want to repeat all the work for potato and woody. This was my experience, too. In my opinion now

Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:58:26PM +0100, Massimo Dal Zotto wrote: In my opinion now that we have debconf we should mandate its use by policy. No. We. Should. Not. If you want every package to use debconf, that's fine and wonderful. Go make a list of the ones that don't, write patches so that