Bug#591791: extend init.d policy to permit upstart jobs and describe their use

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Steve Langasek wrote: Sorry this has taken so long; I spun my wheels on it for some time because I couldn't quite accept that there were so few additional requirements that needed to be specified here! Thanks for your work. :) [...] + tasks at boot time. However, any package

Bug#504880: Disambiguate installed for packages

2011-03-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote: ) I suspect others like it, too, but who knows? Patch attached. Seconds or objections welcome. Seconded. It's long and I might have missed some inaccuracies but I think it's an improvement in clarity. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian

Bug#587377: debian-policy: Decide on arbitrary file/path names limit

2011-03-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 04:35:09PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Bill Allombert wrote: Now preserving interfaces _does_ seem like an objection that's more important. A policy should like this (potential) one represents a bug but it is not necessarily more important than the other bug of

Bug#587991: perl-policy: /etc/perl missing from Module Path

2011-03-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 08:15:28PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Hi, Ansgar Burchardt noticed: perl/5.8.0-7 added /etc/perl to @INC: * Prepend /etc/perl to @INC to provide a standard location for configuration modules: But this addition has never been documented in the

Bug#587991: perl-policy: /etc/perl missing from Module Path

2011-03-05 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 20:15:28 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: I see this has been seconded by Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org (message #25) and I imagine that Russ might be willing to second this, but that still leaves us one DD short[1]. Seconds? Objections? Clarifications? diff --git

Bug#591791: extend init.d policy to permit upstart jobs and describe their use

2011-03-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 02:19:12AM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Hi, Steve Langasek wrote: Sorry this has taken so long; I spun my wheels on it for some time because I couldn't quite accept that there were so few additional requirements that needed to be specified here! Thanks for

Bug#591791: extend init.d policy to permit upstart jobs and describe their use

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Bill Allombert wrote: On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 02:19:12AM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Maybe policy could allow (but discourage) packages that only support some non-Sys-V init system as long as they include a dependency indicating so? This would be a terrible idea. We would end up with

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2011-03-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 12:19:22AM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Hi Russ, Russ Allbery wrote: Right, this was the reason why I hadn't committed anything yet. We have to decide whether we're going to prohibit arch:any - arch:all links completely to ensure that the binNMU changelog

Bug#616465: debian-policy: description file in each system directory

2011-03-05 Thread sergey
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:33:00 -0600 Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com wrote: To throw an idea out, I wonder if making the filesystem hierarchy standard (http://www.pathname.com/fhs/) more visible could have the same effect? For example, there could be a package providing READMEs in system

Bug#616457: debian-policy: always write version of Debian in documentation at the beginning

2011-03-05 Thread sergey
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:49:45 -0600 Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com wrote: What do you propose? I propose to define the next two things in policy: - types of documents that must have Debian version; - how far from document's beginning can version info be placed. - Regards,

Bug#616465: debian-policy: description file in each system directory

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Sergey, sergey wrote: Does Debian policy can recommend something (including READMEs)? Or policy can only force something, no recommendations is possible? Policy sets rules that make sure the system works well. These can be hard requirements (generally using the word must), which

Bug#616465: debian-policy: description file in each system directory

2011-03-05 Thread sergey
Hi Jonathan, Policy sets rules that make sure the system works well. ... Perhaps the following might provide some inspiration: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep0/ I agree that it is a good place for proposals like mine. But making long well-developed draft and driving it - this is

Bug#593177: Pre-Depends: dpkg (= 1.15.7.2) for dpkg-maintscript-helper okay?

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Steve Langasek wrote: So in this case the pre-dependency should *not* be set, as it only serves to complicate the upgrade path. I think this example might deserve a closer look. Documentating the required dpkg version seems useful for backporters and others who would use the package in

Bug#616465: debian-policy: description file in each system directory

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
(-cc: Steve since he is already subscribed to -policy) Hi Sergey, sergey wrote: I agree that it is a good place for proposals like mine. But making long well-developed draft and driving it - this is mostly operating system developer's task, not users one. I think that Debian should have some