Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
don't remember it being terribly bad... It would be interesting to have the above data on a whole buzz system (as presumably the above is against sarge-era libraries.) Too bad you can't debootstrap buzz :) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

2006-04-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
appropriate. Even better (IMHO) is the full term Amateur Radio, but some may disagree. I've CC'd debian-hams for their input also. Thanks for the work on the new menu structure. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

chapter 4 on version numbering doesn't mention ~ trick

2003-04-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
the old ugly tricks like Samba's 2.99+3.00alpha23 .. The ~ character deliberately has low sorting order, so 3.00~alpha23 3.00. Am I free to use it? Please CC me as I'm not subscribed (M-F-T is set correctly). Thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [vhost-base] Draft policy proposal

2001-11-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
directory for web data and logs etc) is needed all. Maybe you have a good reason but you need to explain it in the rationale. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [vhost-base] Draft policy proposal

2001-11-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
the need as well. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: new fields in debian/control

2000-07-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
? As it is now, if the Debian submit-bugs-to field had to change, we'd have to recompile all the packages. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PROPOSAL: complete list of documentation files, man packagename, all man pages refer to said doc list in See Also section

2000-05-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 08:25:29PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: I resized my xterm and used a current dpkg. Cool! Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PROPOSAL: complete list of documentation files, man packagename, all man pages refer to said doc list in See Also section

2000-05-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
kernel binary image. ii kernel-package 7.04.potato.1 Debian Linux kernel package build scripts. ... the useful part of the package name is cut off. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: missing FHS archives

2000-01-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
with shared loadable libraries. A clear mixing of function. Or I could just have FreeBSD braindamage. There's other stuff in there too, if you want to be pedantic -- architecture-specific non-variable data files. cheers Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.

Re: Making a NEW area (Re: Intention to Donate troll-ftpd 1.25)

1999-11-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
do it if you think it's a good idea? I don't think it's a good idea, but I digress. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.

Re: Debian membership (with a twist)

1999-10-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
weeks back. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of Configuration files section

1999-07-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
this. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: Rewrite of configuration files section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
of the package's conffile you want to modify to give you a mechanism (like updated-inetd etc) to do so. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Re: Debian conflicts with FHS on /usr/include/{linux,asm}

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
software until you've tested the new--especially at the system and kernel levels. If you want to get picky, the admin has no business installing sources directly into /usr/src, being a vendor-controlled area. I keep my kernel source in /usr/local/src/linux-2.2 and linux-2.3. Hamish -- Hamish

Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of Configuration files section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
in the package. (They are configuration files for the system, so it's a bit confusing). They're definately conffiles, though, unless otherwise managed. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: Rewrite of configuration files section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
on upgrades. inetd.conf, exim.conf etc are not included in any .deb file. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: Rewrite of configuration files section

1999-07-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
this point out to avoid confusion. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Bug#40766: Rewrite of configuration files section

1999-07-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 08:39:18PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: On 11-Jul-99, 19:58 (CDT), Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4.7.4. Sharing configuration files -- Only packages that are tagged _conflicting_ with each other may

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
) you could certainly mix these reasonably well. There were some libc5 upgrades and some dpkg upgrades which were mandatory, but nothing too serious. (In particular, rex's dpkg (IIRC) introduced epochs.) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 12:06:53AM +0200, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: But this doesn't solve the other problem: dpkg -L shows these symlinks as real man pages. This is annoying at least for me... But why on earth are you looking for manual pages with dpkg -L? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex

Re: Are /cdrom and /floppy really forbidden by policy?

1999-04-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
situation is just fine, especially with Santiago's suggestion of only creating these at install time. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. pgpgt7yEaCtAq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Are /cdrom and /floppy really forbidden by policy?

1999-04-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
do real world users store their real work -- in their home directories? What about group projects? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Re: Are /cdrom and /floppy really forbidden by policy?

1999-04-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
is /.. Just my opinion of course. /mnt is for temporary mounts; I do not consider /cdrom to be a temporary mount, myself. IMHO, /mnt/* is an ugly Red Hatism. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. pgpRROc2M4993.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#33156: debian-policy: Cannot find referenced file in given URL

1999-02-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 06:06:42PM +0100, Brederlow wrote: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think this section should be removed from policy. This document contains some (very arguable) reasons why new scripts should not be written in csh, but absolutely no reasons why upstream

Re: smarter way to differ architectures needed?

1999-02-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
the kernel is actually better than Linux, and if not, is it worth doing? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http

source dependencies

1999-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
not. Only dpkg-source should need to be modified. I thought someone said Klee had developed a dpkg variant that did this already, but I couldn't find it poking around master. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp

Re: Relation with non-existing packages

1999-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
by another package or a virtual package from the list of virtual packages. This says that a package cannot conflict with an old version of another package. That is bad! Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp

Re: xbase: the .Xdefaults issue

1999-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 11:10:35PM -0800, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben The XFree86 sources as shipped use ~/.Xresources as the Ben default place for user X resources. Every other Unix in the Ben world uses the file ~/.Xdefaults. I

Re: Relation with non-existing packages

1999-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jan 06, 1999 at 05:56:46PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Hamish Moffatt wrote: This says that a package cannot conflict with an old version of another package. That is bad! You're right. Saying that you may conflict with packages in older distributions as well doesn't

Re: xbase: the .Xdefaults issue

1998-12-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
. I have .Xdefaults, and the settings in there work if I use startx, but not if I login on xdm. And xdm seems to have disappeared from my system, so I can't try it now to see if it makes the difference. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest

Re: developer's ref -- new chapter on NMUs and ports

1998-11-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
says, it's excellent. One minor typo; it says sounce instead of source in one place. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http

Re: FHS - transition

1998-10-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
of. Perhaps he hacked info to have colors once, and he would like to keep using his program. How can we support every possible custom script? The system changes; some things will break. Custom scripts will need maintenance; I don't think that's too unreasonable. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD

Re: Bug#27906: PROPOSED] Binary-only NMU's

1998-10-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
not say, 'must build with a single command on every platform' . Finally, it makes life much easier for both of the developers involved. I also have received patches this way from Paul and have no objection to this method. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: Comments on policy modifications

1998-09-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
push for consistency. Consistency is to compress them -- we compress all other documentation in /usr/doc except the copyright files. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs

Re: /usr/X11R6

1998-08-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
]. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: enforcing doc-base

1998-07-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
of practice to learn how to hunt down documents. Can you or one of the doc-base developers give me (or point me at) an executive summary of that doc-base does? thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub

Re: generating gpg keys

1998-07-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 08:12:43PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On generating gpg keys, how can one go about getting enough entropy on one's own machine? I tried generating it on a server I have co-located with my ISP, so at least it would have

Re: Summary[2]: dpkg and alpha/beta versioning

1998-06-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
their right to break it? Of course, it's done now (for libc6) and needs to be fixed, which is what epochs are for, even if the manual says they aren't. They fix incorrect version numbers, but the manual is warning against making such mistakes in the first place. IMHO. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL

Re: Policy as rule of law, or whatever

1998-05-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
, and that if they're not then one of them should be fixed. This I agree with. However I believe that there is a perception at present that if policy does not seem to fit your package, you may simply ignore it. I do not think that works. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Policy as rule of law, or whatever

1998-05-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, May 21, 1998 at 12:26:08PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: This I agree with. However I believe that there is a perception at present that if policy does not seem to fit your package, you may simply ignore it. I do not think that works. That is, I think that some maintainers have

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Vers

1998-05-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
should be used, as in Packages must specify only the first three digits of the version ... Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Vers

1998-05-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 01:09:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamish Moffatt) wrote on 10.05.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Packages only have to specify the first three digits of the version number in the `Standards-Version' field of their source

Re: New policy editor ?

1998-05-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
. However, in the past there has been criticism that the same group of core people (eg Guy, Ian) are responsible for several big tasks, and that other developers are unwilling to take on those tasks. (IIRC, at least). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PROPOSAL: defining a new runlevel, 4

1998-05-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
proposal doesn't address that at all. Is it's traditional a good enough reason to do things? Traditionally a Unix platform doesn't come with the GNU system installed, but we ship it that way. And more examples ... Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: An interesting dependancy problem

1998-04-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
javalex's problem though). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: An alternatives question

1998-04-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
-subsitute? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: manpage for GNU utilities?

1998-02-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
pages are bad, but lack of knowledge of the tools available is no justification in a policy debate. Not being an emacs user myself, I find info hard to use. On the other hand, man gives you your choice of pager, so man has no such problem. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: PW#5-5: Standardized handling of /etc/init.d script options

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
with a non-zero status. Or else we need to reword PW#5-5. Is a non-zero status useful? After all, cron WILL reload the configuration, even though that isn't caused by the script. A reload will occur, which is success. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: dhelp/dwww: document.htmlgz, Apache mod_rewrite, mod_actions

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
done this in www-sql (which benefits from configuring apache to handle .sql files) but later found out that it's not allowed by policy. Finding a way for apache to allow configuration modifications would be nice but difficult I suspect. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: /bin/sh as an alternative

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 12:08:47AM +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: Yes, I can only agree. But is bash actually completely POSIX-compliant (and nothing more than that) when called as /bin/sh ? It would appear not: sh-2.01$ echo hello {there,world} hello there world Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt

Re: PW#5-3: How packages can register cron jobs

1998-01-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
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Re: PW#5-5: Standardized handling of /etc/init.d script options

1998-01-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
to mention reload? hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org

Re: are md5sums mandatory for all packages?

1997-12-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Dec 20, 1997 at 07:02:45PM +0100, David Frey wrote: On Sat, Dec 20 1997 16:17 +1100 Hamish Moffatt writes: On Fri, Dec 19, 1997 at 01:31:38PM -0500, Scott Ellis wrote: And the instant someone provides us with free software equivilant to ssh or pgp, we'll move to use it. We need

Re: are md5sums mandatory for all packages?

1997-12-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
), it mightn't hurt to better advertise the not-necessarily-free status of these packages. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome

Re: Changelog files

1997-12-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
configure your lesspipe script to automatically decompress files. OTOH, I don't really mind either way, just thought I would point these things out. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
encourages us not to get the KDE people off-side, sometimes it wouldn't hurt if the KDE people would try not to piss us off either. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
impress me. i will obey any decission, that will be done. What is wrong with Christian's final solution? You didn't reply. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
will not brake our packages, and vice versa. what is wrong with this ? We are still supporting their packages in the sense that we support their installation. Should any package reference packages that aren't available in any of Debian's three distributions (main, non-free, contrib)? hamish -- Hamish

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
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Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
-- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [**] 60% The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

1997-11-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Nov 16, 1997 at 11:37:40PM -0800, Daniel Quinlan wrote: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I was shocked to see the Linux annex specify that /usr/include/{asm,linux} should be a symlink - /usr/src/linux/... Are we in danger of being labelled FHS-compatible (instead

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

1997-11-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
/{asm,linux} should be a symlink - /usr/src/linux/... Are we in danger of being labelled FHS-compatible (instead of FHS-compliant) because we do what libc6 and Linus both recommend? hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

1997-11-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
for the changes. thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 58% The opposite of a profound truth may well

Re: US Debian Crypto Policy - Project leadership position

1997-10-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
constructive to say, please don't. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 56% The opposite of a profound truth