Bug#172630: debian-policy: Clarification on /etc/init.d/foo restart behaviour.

2002-12-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Bill Allombert wrote: Here a patch that clarify the behavior of /etc/init.d/foo restart. This is taken straight out of LSB 1.2 / Chapter 22. / System Initialization / Init Script Actions --- policy.sgml 2002-11-15 07:49:40.0 +0100 +++ policy.sgml.new

Re: Debian-Perl-Policy and .packlist?

2002-12-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 05 Dec 2002, Michael Lamertz wrote: Oh dammit, do we really have to enter these dark lands... Apparently. Let me get my scuba suit, and a harpoon... On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 09:49:17PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: the module which works perfectly well on, ... well

Re: Debian-Perl-Policy and .packlist?

2002-12-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002, Michael Lamertz wrote: Except for core packages, that shouldn't happen, since packages install Then any proposed solution should take that into account... Josip Rodin suggested on debian-policy that I should file a bug report against the package that contains

Bug#170019: debian-policy: Ambiguity in section 11.7.2 (Configuration files: Location)

2002-11-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, era eriksson wrote: --- 5823,5835 p Any configuration files created or used by your package must reside in tt/etc/tt. If there are several you ! should create a subdirectory of tt/etc/tt named after your package./p I

Bug#60979: What /etc/init.d/xxx restart does?

2002-09-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Oliver Elphick wrote: On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 18:43, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: Starting and stopping a service should be idempotent, i.e. further attempts should silently succeed. I don't agree with that, if that is what current policy says (but I don't think it does).

Bug#60979: What /etc/init.d/xxx restart does?

2002-09-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Bill Allombert wrote: I feel it is very important every init script behave the same. However the wording of section 10.3.2 is confusing: The init.d scripts should ensure that they will behave sensibly if invoked with start when the service is already running, or

Re: [RFC] *-rc.d - rc.d-* transition

2002-09-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Chris Waters wrote: ~ $ grep update-rc.d /var/lib/dpkg/info/*{pre,post}{inst,rm}|wc -l 88 If you use update-rc.d, you will call init scripts with 99.9% probability. That means you _will have to_ switch to invoke-rc.d (sooner or later anyway). For people using

Re: [RFC] *-rc.d - rc.d-* transition

2002-09-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 08 Sep 2002, Chris Waters wrote: First, I'd like to say that I'm fairly neutral in this debate. None So am I, actually. I am proposing it because I said at debconf2 that I would, after the people there got convinced it would be a good thing by whomever proposed it. 1. Since we'll be

[RFC] *-rc.d - rc.d-* transition

2002-09-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
As it was talked in Debconf2, we would be better off if we renamed all *-rc.d utilities (invoke-rc.d, policy-rc.d, update-rc.d) to rc.d-* (rc.d-invoke, rc.d-policy, rc.d-update). Transition plan: 1a. Rename all scripts to their new names, add compatibility symlinks to the sysvinit and

Re: /usr/doc link

2002-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Oliver Elphick wrote: Are we still supposed to maintain the /usr/share/doc/x - /usr/doc/x link for uploads to sarge? No. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the

Re: /usr/doc link

2002-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Joey Hess wrote: Of course policy still says we must. I don't know when we want to change that; now or when a lot of packages have stopped including it, or what. Well, if we simply change policy not to say anything, then including it is not against policy. Later we forbid

Bug#157131: PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Richard Braakman wrote: This would lose a feature that I find valuable: usually, recompiling a package with the debug option will generate a binary whose symbols are compatible with the normal packaged binary. I have used this several times to chase down hard-to-find

Re: invoke-rc.d

2002-07-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Joey Hess wrote: So can we get something in policy about invoke-rc.d now? I'm chomping at Yes, please apply the already approved stuff. policy has been unfrozen, now... I will send to this list before tomorrow a new prolicy proposal to account for the transition from

Bug#152955: debian-policy: section 10.3.2 in force-reload should be more clear

2002-07-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: After short discussion on debian-devel it is obvious, that the section on policy about the restart and force reload of daemons in init.d scripts could I agree with that. We do not define what force-reload does if the service is not running [and it

Bug#149709: BUG] section 10.3.3 does not provide enough guidance for package maintainers to use update-rc.d correctly

2002-06-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Branden Robinson wrote: 2) The examples advise people to redirect the output of update-rc.d to /dev/null. Adam Heath and I feel this is a bad idea, and even if this change is not made, some people (like the author of lintian; see Bug

Re: Architecture strings Was: [rms@gnu.org: Re: PATCH: gcc-3.1/criteria.html]

2002-05-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Do please notice we have (at least) *TWO* classes of arch identification strings. What RMS seems to be asking us to do is to change all of them to have '-gnu'. That is *NOT* what I am talking about. Actually, RMS is concerned about the

Re: Architecture strings Was: [rms@gnu.org: Re: PATCH: gcc-3.1/criteria.html]

2002-05-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 29 May 2002, Matthias Klose wrote: Ok, now that we separate woody and unstable, it is time to think about this. IMO, this is not a gcc only thing. So propably it should be changed in dpkg/policy first. debian-cpu-linux-gnu and cpu-linux-gnu come to mind as an alternative. Ben

Bug#133030: debian-policy: debconf policy (specification) implies dpkg will run .config before preinst ALWAYS

2002-02-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 08 Feb 2002, Joey Hess wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Please document this, it may save someone a grave bug someday, and maybe even avoid a lot of headaches. Does it really need to be documented in policy? debconf-devel(8) Well, one need not document that in policy

Bug#133030: debian-policy: debconf policy (specification) implies dpkg will run .config before preinst ALWAYS

2002-02-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.6.0 Severity: minor The debconf specification text says: The config-file contains a new element, which I call the configmodule. This is a program that will determine the configuration before the package is unpacked. This means it is run before the

Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Joey Hess wrote: --- policy.sgml.orig Tue May 15 21:57:25 2001 +++ policy.sgml Tue May 15 22:14:28 2001 @@ -1024,6 +1024,38 @@ /p /sect1 +sect1 + headingTasks/heading + + p + The Debian install process allows the

Bug#91257: seconding this

2001-05-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
I second this proposal, in the form taken on the message with the msgid [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- System Information Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux godzillah.rivendell.sol 2.2.19 #1 Thu Mar 29 19:31:38 BRT 2001 i586 Versions of packages debian-policy depends on: ii

Bug#97072: PROPOSED 2001/05/11] correct policy's comments on standards-version

2001-05-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: --- policy.sgml Sun Apr 29 05:10:09 2001 +++ policy.sgml.std Fri May 11 11:10:09 2001 @@ -1186,9 +1186,9 @@ p In the source package's ttStandards-Version/tt control - field, you must specify the most recent

Re: Tasks policy

2001-05-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 06 May 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: So, here's the deal. We need to get a proper policy for tasks fairly soon. I agree. The current task-* packages are mostly useless cruft for what they were supposed to do, i.e. help users during the install. * There should only be a limited

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