Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:58:56PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: Yes, but if I amend the proposal like this, then it needs to be seconded all over again, doesn't it? I don't see why. You need two seconds to go from proposal to amendment. To go from amendment to accepted, you need

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 10:58:19PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Yes, but if I amend the proposal like this, then it needs to be seconded all over again, doesn't it? [...] Well, they don't invalidate it, but they change it from the one that the seconders seconded. How do I know their second

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2001-05-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
retitle 66023 [AMENDMENT 06/05/2001] Treat plugins and shared libraries differently thanks Four developers have seconded this proposal, so according to 3.3 Creating an Amendment of policy-process document, this proposal is an amendment. I'm not sure about the date, the document says [AMENDMENT

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:22:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: I would prefer to let this rest until the initial amendment is in Policy, since it's not very easy to get seconds and this amendment is already overdue. Surely it's possible to change a proposed amendment before it is accepted?

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 05:41:44PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:22:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: I would prefer to let this rest until the initial amendment is in Policy, since it's not very easy to get seconds and this amendment is already overdue. Surely

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-05-06 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 04:53:12PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Yes, but if I amend the proposal like this, then it needs to be seconded all over again, doesn't it? I don't see why. You need two seconds to go from proposal to amendment. To go from amendment to accepted, you need consensus on

Re: Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.)

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:03:09PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Manoj and I are only two people. Handling policy bugs is hard for a number of reasons: (1) There are a lot of them, and many of them are now quite long. (2) We don't have any official editorial rights, so unless a proposal

Re: Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.)

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:18:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I made one posting with such a list, but I've been swamped recently. I can start an automated posting of a list; with the master list being in policy CVS so that either Julian or I can updfate it; people can send me

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Richard == Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:37:22PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: +to by third party executables (binaries of other packages), +should be installed in the subdirectories of the Richard

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 11:36:41PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: +to by third party executables (binaries of other packages), +should be installed in the subdirectories of the Richard ^^^ Richard I would drop that the, to make clear that

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-29 Thread Colin Watson
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +Shared object files (i.e. filelibsoname.so/file) that are Seth Arnold noticed (in a private mail to me) how this stuff in parenthesis shouldn't be there (my mistake), because the plugins can be named differently -- the file name makes no practical

Bug#66023: [shaleh@valinux.com: Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.]

2001-04-28 Thread Josip Rodin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins. Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-policy@lists.debian.org I'd prefer if people seconded the diff in #66023 :) and then we can refine that stuff further if necessary. agreed, let's get this solved. (Seconded). - End

Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Josip == Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Josip Our inability to get this into Policy is appaling, isn't it? : You are being too hard on yourself. Putting together a proposal that gathers seconds is non trivial; one has to convince people of the rationale, come up with the

Re: Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.)

2001-04-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Anthony == Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Anthony Pester people on IRC to second ones that you think are good ideas but Anthony haven't received any attention. This should be anyone on this list who is interesterd in the policy proposals (if you are not interested in

Bug#66023: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, I second this proposal, subject to the typographical and grammatical corrections included below. manoj --- policy.sgml.prevMon Jul 10 11:01:16 2000 +++ policy.sgml Mon Jul 10 11:41:12 2000

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:37:22PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I second this proposal, subject to the typographical and grammatical corrections included below. Thanks. :) --- policy.sgml.prevMon Jul 10 11:01:16 2000 +++ policy.sgml Mon Jul

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-28 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 12:37:22PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: +to by third party executables (binaries of other packages), +should be installed in the subdirectories of the ^^^ I would drop that the, to make clear that packages can create

Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 08:34:43PM -0700, Seth Arnold wrote: proposals. (Though in the section about seconding, it makes especial reference to registered Debian developers. Perhaps for the purposes of getting this bug taken care of, simply being An Interested User counts for proposals. If this

Re: Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.)

2001-04-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:52:10AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: Wichert, I think Geez, again? is the incorrect response to Daniel's mail. Bugs #42399 and #65345 against debian-policy have been outstanding for 1 year and 268 days and 322 days. #65345 even has a patch against lintian,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-27 Thread Josip Rodin
(missed this mail in my enormous inbox, sorry :) On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 08:34:43PM -0700, Seth Arnold wrote: They need to be exempt from the rule for shlibs file, too. See my attempt in #66023... Aye, too true. It may be easier for the proposal to not decide the paths involved -- it

Bug#66023: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-27 Thread Josip Rodin
@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:48:12 +0100 From: Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Josip Rodin wrote: Nobody explicitely said they second it, and nobody explicitely said they object. Several people

Bug#66023: [olly@lfix.co.uk: Re: Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.)]

2001-04-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
- Forwarded message from Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk - Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:48:12 +0100 From: Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk Subject: Re: Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.) To: Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED

Bug#66023: PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-27 Thread Ove Kaaven
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can any developer second policy proposals? If so, I second this one too... (I have a package libwine that puts dynamically-loaded stuff into /usr/lib/wine) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine

[PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-26 Thread Seth Arnold
* Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010426 11:18]: Previously Daniel Kobras wrote: For now I added a lintian overrides for this, but Sean asked me to bring up discussion here to clarify what lintian should treat as shared lib in the future in order to properly solve this issue. Geez,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 02:13:41PM -0700, Seth Arnold wrote: For now I added a lintian overrides for this, but Sean asked me to bring up discussion here to clarify what lintian should treat as shared lib in the future in order to properly solve this issue. Geez, again? Basically

Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.)

2001-04-26 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:42:41PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Wichert, I think Geez, again? is the incorrect response to Daniel's mail. Bugs #42399 and #65345 against debian-policy have been outstanding for 1 year and 268 days and 322 days. #65345 even has a patch against lintian, though it

Re: Old proposals again (Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.)

2001-04-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:52:10AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: (2) We don't have any official editorial rights, so unless a proposal has been seconded in the standard way, it's difficult to figure out what to do with it. Pester people on IRC to second ones that you think are good ideas

Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: Shared libs vs. plugins.

2001-04-26 Thread Seth Arnold
* Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010426 14:54]: Our inability to get this into Policy is appaling, isn't it? : Especially since both you and Wichert have put effort into this -- that is two possible seconds for a proposal. I've taken a closer look at the policy-process text and I do not think I