[This mail is part of Debian Policy Weekly issue #5]
Topic 6: Consistent handling of the Backspace and Delete keys
STATE: APPROVAL
The following proposal has been assembled by Ian Jackson and presented to
debian-policy twice now. It can be considered as first step towards the
`Consistent
If someone would prototype the changes that X needs and send them to
me, I'd appreciate it; I'll have time to review them and do a build,
but not necessarily time to think about them hard enough to actually
implement in the short term.
_Mark_ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 11 Dec 1997, Guy Maor wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark W. Eichin) writes:
If someone would prototype the changes that X needs and send them to
me, I'd appreciate it
Same goes for me and /etc/inputrc.
Related question: Current bash is patched to
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
Related question: Current bash is patched to recognize /etc/inputrc.
Not bash, but libreadline (it's used by bash and many other programs).
Why don't we use export INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc in /etc/profile, instead?
(Would this make patching
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
[snip]
Why don't we use export INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc in /etc/profile, instead?
(Would this make patching unnecessary?)
Because the goal is to have _both_ a system-wide inputrc _and_ a
user-specific one.
Correct. The second reason for this is
On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Ian Jackson wrote:
Pretty much, yes. I've attached a revised version which takes into
account the recent comments.
I think we should add something to that. The whole proposal
refers only to the Linux console and X; but it says nothing about some
other terminals
Christian:
If attached your initial proposal below. Please check if this is the
correct proposal and if it's complete.
Pretty much, yes. I've attached a revised version which takes into
account the recent comments.
Ian.
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What we want is:
* `--' always
The subject is widely covered in updated kbd.FAQ (kbd 0.95).
On Thu Nov 20 13:04:00 1997 +
Ian Jackson wrote:
...
Linux and other good operating systems already use DEL for backspace.
...
AFAIK FreeBSD uses Del for delete and BS for backspace.
And surely this doesn't make
I agree with Ricardas Cepas.
Bob
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 16:02 GMT
From: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ricardas Cepas thinks that we should map -- to ASCII BS and `Delete'
to ASCII DEL. Is there anyone else who agrees with him ? If not then
I think we can safely go with my proposal,
(Oops, sent this to debian-devel by mistake. Please reply here.)
Just a few queries to clear up. There seems to be little opposition
and reasonable support. Unless someone objects soon I think we should
make it policy and start to file bug reports.
Joey Hess:
My only reservation is, can we
Some time ago I posted the message below to debian-devel. It received
widespread support and no significant opposition. I think it
should be made policy.
yes, Yes, YES!!!
I agree completely with the entire proposal.
Brian
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Ian Jackson wrote:
Some time ago I posted the message below to debian-devel. It received
widespread support and no significant opposition. I think it
should be made policy.
Fully seconded. I think the current keyboard config is just a
mess. And I think we
I am sure that emacs can program the keyboard to its liking. There is no need to
impose a standard on the rest of the world just because of emacs.
But I am not sure that Ian meant to proscribe Backspace - DEL. Seems to me
that he
wants an app to respect the stty erase setting. I think that is a
Quoting Ian Jackson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
* Some terminals have a `--' key that cannot be made to produce
anything except ^H. On these terminals Emacs help will be
unavailable
Not unavailable, just not on ^H. It would still be mapped to F1, or
M-xhelp in the worst case. I know some
actual loadkeys and then loading values for Backspace and
Delete as 5). I assume key-codes don't change on the same
terminal, so this can be configured at installation time.
kbd is in base on Debian, so loadkeys can be always invoked at
boot time
backspace and delete working properly.
Ian.
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From: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian developers list debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration
What we want is:
* `--' always deletes
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