Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:13:43 +0100, Tore Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > These packages are already de facto buggy. I can't imagine that I beg too differ. These packages are following policy, which states the current practivce that maintainer scripts may rely on a controlling

Re: Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:45:06 +0100, Tore Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Current policy says a controlling terminal is guaranteed to be > available in the maintainer scripts. This is simply not true, for > dpkg will happily run without one - which makes all scripts that > make explicit

Re: Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 02:23:36AM +0100, Tore Anderson wrote: > Well, I considered submitting this bug on dpkg instead of policy. > However, statements from the policy editors on numerous occations have > given me the impression that policy seeks to document current practise, > not enforce cha

Re: Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 06:50:46PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > That said, I don't think it's a good idea to do this. Many packages > depend on having a controlling tty available, and aren't buggy since > current policy allows it. Changing that would make all those packages > instantly buggy, wh

Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-19 Thread Tore Anderson
* Tore Anderson >> Current policy says a controlling terminal is guaranteed to be >> available in the maintainer scripts. This is simply not true, for >> dpkg will happily run without one [...] * Chris Waters > That's not strictly true. Dpkg calls maintainer scripts, and > maintainer

Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-19 Thread Tore Anderson
* Wouter Verhelst > That said, I don't think it's a good idea to do this. Many packages > depend on having a controlling tty available, and aren't buggy since > current policy allows it. Changing that would make all those packages > instantly buggy, which should be avoided if at all possible (

Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-19 Thread Chris Waters
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 04:45:06PM +0100, Tore Anderson wrote: > Current policy says a controlling terminal is guaranteed to be > available in the maintainer scripts. This is simply not true, for > dpkg will happily run without one [...] That's not strictly true. Dpkg calls maintainer scrip

Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op vr 19-12-2003, om 16:45 schreef Tore Anderson: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: wishlist > > Current policy says a controlling terminal is guaranteed to be > available in the maintainer scripts. This is simply not true, for > dpkg will happily run without one - which makes all scripts

Bug#224509: [PROPOSAL] Correct spurious promise regarding TTY availability

2003-12-19 Thread Tore Anderson
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist Current policy says a controlling terminal is guaranteed to be available in the maintainer scripts. This is simply not true, for dpkg will happily run without one - which makes all scripts that make explicit use of /dev/tty (as policy recommends) fa