Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:51:24 -0600, Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Of course, I'm playing with the numbers. There are still smaller machines, there are the embedded-minded people, and of course, there would be no sane way to verify the GPL3 was the same GPL3 all over if we were to kill

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:16:17AM -0500]: Of course, I'm playing with the numbers. There are still smaller machines, there are the embedded-minded people, and of course, there would be no sane way to verify the GPL3 was the same GPL3 all over if we were to kill

Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _One_ thing that makes me favor common-licenses is being able to do wide checks to count the number of packages saying to adhere to a given license - As I said, nothing guarantees that the COPYING file in my (upstream) package is the same as in yours (for

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:47:52 -0600, Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava dijo [Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:16:17AM -0500]: Of course, I'm playing with the numbers. There are still smaller machines, there are the embedded-minded people, and of course, there would be no sane way

Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 01:57:30PM -0500]: The question is not how many people have installed the package, the question is how many packages on a given machine have the same copyright, and thus would benefit by savings in disk space by bundling them together

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:26:37 -0700, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'd love to see some sort of guideline for this so that we could make incorporation of new licenses into Policy more objective in the future. I do agree that either priorities or popcon installations or both should be

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-19 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:26:37PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I'd love to see some sort of guideline for this so that we could make incorporation of new licenses into Policy more objective in the future. I do agree that either priorities or popcon installations or both should be taken into

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Wijnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, here's an idea for such a guideline: For each packages with this license, compute max{1,log10(popcon)}. Sum all those values. If the total is higher than the treshold, the license should go in common-licenses. A package with this license is a

Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have gotten no further feedback on this proposal. I would like to resolve this bug for the next Policy release one way or the other. Could others reading the Policy list please express an opinion on

Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Noted, thanks. Feel free to reassign/clone this bug to base-files if you like. I've cloned it to base-files so that we can independently track inclusion in base-files and inclusion of the wording changes in Policy. Thanks! -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Wijnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some idea about the number of packages which is enough seems useful. I think it should also be taken into account how many people have the package installed. That is: the only reason not to put a license in there, is that it increases the system size for

Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have gotten no further feedback on this proposal. I would like to resolve this bug for the next Policy release one way or the other. Could others reading the Policy list please express an opinion on whether we should add the Apache 2.0 license to the

Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did a check today, and there are over 230 binary packages in the archive with the Apache License. (I believe essentially all of them are Apache 2.0, although the simple grep I did made that a bit harder to

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-05 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 08:12:13PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did a check today, and there are over 230 binary packages in the archive with the Apache License. (I believe essentially all of them are Apache 2.0, although the simple grep I did made

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could others reading the Policy list please express an opinion on whether we should add the Apache 2.0 license to the list of common-licenses? Software from Apache or using the Apache license is becoming more important over time, in my opinion, and it's

Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did a check today, and there are over 230 binary packages in the archive with the Apache License. (I believe essentially all of them are Apache 2.0, although the simple grep I did made that a bit harder to check.) I think that reaches the threshold

Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-04 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 20:12 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: I have gotten no further feedback on this proposal. I would like to resolve this bug for the next Policy release one way or the other. Could others reading the Policy list please express an opinion on whether we should add the Apache 2.0