Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-09-11 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:51:38AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: At this point, I would be fully in favor of anyone who has the time to finish applying whatever patches Steve wanted applied that have consensus and then uploading 3.9.3 with a request to debian-www that it be linked into the web

Re: Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-09-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:51:38AM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : At this point, I would be fully in favor of anyone who has the time to finish applying whatever patches Steve wanted applied that have consensus and then uploading 3.9.3 with a request to debian-www that it be linked into the

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-09-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 05:24:02PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Bug 609160 is fixed in revision 3.9.2.0 already. No, that revision contained an old, insufficient version of DEP5, which needed fixing, so using the same bug was entirely appropriate. It may conflict with your arbitrary rules for

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-09-09 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:37:32AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 05:24:02PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Bug 609160 is fixed in revision 3.9.2.0 already. If you want to follow particular rules, that's fine, but stop assuming other people are bound by them. Your rules,

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-09-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes: How many more months will it take to put DEP5 on the policy web pages? Been waiting that for half a year now... I don't think the policy process is working at all right now. Well, no, I would tend to agree that it's not really working. However, that's

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-09-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:16:58AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear Policy team and WWW team, Here are two patches against the debian-policy package, in order to prepare the distribution of our specification of a machine-readable format for debian/copyright, drafted as Debian Enhancement

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-09-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:38:07AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: I do think it would be better to forego any changes to DEP5, unless there's actual problems going on. However, if the policy team wants to take over edits for now, I'm happy about that, and willing to declare DEP5 be ACCEPTED. I'd

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-30 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:57:56PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Hi Lars, I am not making insinuations. Sorry, Charles, I was out of line, and my reaction was too strong. I do think it would be better to forego any changes to DEP5, unless there's actual problems going on. However, if the

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 07:42:23PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:30:34PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:41:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: given that DEP 5 is still in the CANDIDATE state, and given that the change is not

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-29 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:24:47AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I do not know how to write this diplomatically, and my request to have my patch applied was a clumsy way to re-open the discussion without mentionning the above email, but if 1) the only changes before the DEP is accepted are

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-29 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Lars Wirzenius wrote: After the policy team takes over maintenance of the DEP5 spec, you can use the policy process to suggest changes to it. The DEP5 spec is already in the policy repo. Is there any reason not to move to that way of working now (which does not imply anything about when

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 06:46:21AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : On ke, 2011-04-13 at 10:49 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 07:16:17PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : Attached please find my changes to the docbook conversion. * remove drivers from abstract

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-28 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:41:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: given that DEP 5 is still in the CANDIDATE state, and given that the change is not normative, I was wondering if the patch I sent in November 2011, reproduced below for your convenience, could be applied in the end. My opinion

Re: Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:30:34PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : I'm still hoping that the DEP5 spec will properly integrated into the policy package soon, and I would prefer to see that happening, so that my involvement in it can end, than make any other changes right now. That would be

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes: Policy team, is there any reason to not do that? As far as I can see the only changes needed are to provide a stable URL (with embedded version number), and changing the spec to use that URL in the Format: header. No reason whatsoever, and it would have

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:30:34PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:41:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: given that DEP 5 is still in the CANDIDATE state, and given that the change is not normative, I was wondering if the patch I sent in November 2011, reproduced

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-08-28 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Steve Langasek wrote: I think there are significant language bugs in the current draft that should be fixed before this is ready to be adopted as a standard. Could you list some? Thanks, Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-04-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 07:16:17PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : reopen 609160 thanks Attached please find my changes to the docbook conversion. * remove drivers from abstract (we're mentioned in acks, which is enough) * a couple of missing spaces from markup * removal of useless

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-04-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2011-04-13 at 10:49 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 07:16:17PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : reopen 609160 thanks Attached please find my changes to the docbook conversion. * remove drivers from abstract (we're mentioned in acks, which is enough) *

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-04-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
reopen 609160 thanks Attached please find my changes to the docbook conversion. * remove drivers from abstract (we're mentioned in acks, which is enough) * a couple of missing spaces from markup * removal of useless appendix (this was in dep svn already, so better do it in the version in policy

Processed: Re: Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-04-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: reopen 609160 Bug #609160 {Done: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org} [debian-policy] debian-policy: include DEP5 'reopen' may be inappropriate when a bug has been closed with a version; you may need to use 'found' to remove fixed versions. thanks

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-04-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Pong :) Here is DEP-5 in DocBook format, and the changes needed to the debian-policy package to build it in HTML and text formats. I have followed the same way as the Debconf spec. In the long term, there is probably a smarter way to do, but for the

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-04-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: My inclination is to include it in the next debian-policy package upload, but (since that's happening tomorrow, not giving people much time), remove the reference to it in Policy proper for right now and not make a big deal out of the fact that it's there.

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-04-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 01:00:22AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Pong :) Here is DEP-5 in DocBook format, and the changes needed to the debian-policy package to build it in HTML and text formats. I have followed the same way as the Debconf spec.

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-03-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2011-03-01 at 19:13 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Ping :). I would be interested in either a copy in debiandoc format or rules in the Makefile to build from docbook format. If interested in the latter, please coordinate work using Bug#175064. I note that since I submitted the bug

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Lars Wirzenius wrote: Updating the patch should, I think, be done only after the draft is final and policy is ready to include it in the package (even if only in the policy VCS repository). If you mean that there is no need to update to an intermediate version, makes sense to me.

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-03-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2011-03-02 at 03:33 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Updating the patch should, I think, be done only after the draft is final and policy is ready to include it in the package (even if only in the policy VCS repository). If you mean that there is no need to update to an intermediate

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Lars Wirzenius wrote: On ke, 2011-03-02 at 03:33 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: If you mean that there is no need to update to an intermediate version, makes sense to me. Anyway, getting any version ready to include in the VCS (on a branch) seems worthwhile to me, and after that, updating

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-03-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com writes: I can try this weekend to write some makefile rules to build from docbook XML. This should already be there to handle the debconf spec, which is already in Policy and already written in Docbook. IMHO it would not be worth it to couple this with

Re: Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Russ Allbery wrote: This should already be there to handle the debconf spec, which is already in Policy and already written in Docbook. Ah, debconf_spec/Makefile. Thanks, and sorry I missed this before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-03-01 Thread Jonathan Nieder
user debian-pol...@packages.debian.org severity 609160 wishlist usertags 609160 + packaging quit Hi Charles, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:49:17PM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : Attached please find a patch that adds a copy of DEP5 to the debian-policy package. [...] if

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-03-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 07:13:57PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder a écrit : Ping :). I would be interested in either a copy in debiandoc format or rules in the Makefile to build from docbook format. If interested in the latter, please coordinate work using Bug#175064. Dear Jonathan, I have a

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-01-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:49:17PM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : Attached please find a patch that adds a copy of DEP5 to the debian-policy package. I have attempted to add it to the Makefile and debian/rules file, but not sure if I did it in a good way. The actual spec text is identical

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-01-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Le Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:49:17PM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : Attached please find a patch that adds a copy of DEP5 to the debian-policy package. I have attempted to add it to the Makefile and debian/rules file, but not sure if I did it in a good

Bug#609160: debian-policy: include DEP5

2011-01-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Package: debian-policy Version: n/a Attached please find a patch that adds a copy of DEP5 to the debian-policy package. I have attempted to add it to the Makefile and debian/rules file, but not sure if I did it in a good way. The actual spec text is identical to the one on the DEP site