Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-17 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:30:50PM -0600, John Galt wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Richard Braakman wrote: It also doesn't require more than the name and the date, and it doesn't forbid you from removing the notices for previous changes. So your

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-16 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit: Who cares about changelogs if there is no requirement that they tell the truth? I've always thought changelogs were necessary because GPL wants this : 2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-16 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:42:15PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change. It says the modified files. Keeping a separate ChangeLog does not meet this requirement; the

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 15-May-01, 13:35 (CDT), Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who cares about changelogs if there is no requirement that they tell the truth? Because *most* developers will have correct (and possibly even useful) changelogs most of the time. If a few don't, then people will complain, and

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-16 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Richard Braakman wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:42:15PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change. It says the modified files. Keeping a separate

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 14, Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can always keep the old changelogs in the source package only. We have archive.debian.org for the old things. As long as the entries are archived in a released distribution I think it's fine to snip them and save the disk space of all our

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-15 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:30:08AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 14, Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can always keep the old changelogs in the source package only. We have archive.debian.org for the old things. As long as the entries are archived in a released distribution I

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-15 Thread Santiago Vila
Who cares about changelogs if there is no requirement that they tell the truth?

Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi, I had some time ago a discussion with Paul Slootman in #85936 about the removal of old changelog entries. He did remove at one point all changelog entries except the latest on (and Raphael Bossek did recently the same in some of his packages). Paul simply closed #85936 with the comment --

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Adrian Bunk wrote: It seems he's right and I can't find a place in the policy that forbids the deletion of old changelog entries or did I miss something? It also doesn't allow it. Common behaviour seems to be to move the old changelog entries in a seperate file. Old changelog

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had some time ago a discussion with Paul Slootman in #85936 about the removal of old changelog entries. He did remove at one point all changelog entries except the latest on (and Raphael Bossek did recently the same in some of his packages). Paul simply

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had some time ago a discussion with Paul Slootman in #85936 about the removal of old changelog entries. He did remove at one point all changelog entries except the latest on (and Raphael Bossek did recently the same in some of his packages). Paul simply

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-14 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:21:07PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Adrian Bunk wrote: It seems he's right and I can't find a place in the policy that forbids the deletion of old changelog entries or did I miss something? It also doesn't allow it. Common behaviour seems to be to

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Colin Watson wrote: ... Also see #82790, whose maintainer apparently never keeps more than one changelog entry. Unfortunately, unless someone has the old changelog entries and can NMU, not a lot can be done about it. After reading Thomas' answer it seems to be the correct