Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
I've just had what I think is a really useful idea On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:13:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: __Debian Standards Document__ This makes a lot of sense as a separate, technical, document, as you say. But I think that (at least a part of) the sections which I asterisk

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:33:44AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:13:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: __Debian Standards Document__ dpkg: * version format * maintainer scripts are run when and under what circumstances Both of these are irrelevant to just

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:08:03 +1000, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: Version number comparison is checked with 'dpkg --compare-versions', and the format is checked automatically by various tools. I've never found it necessary to look at the details of either except when I'm poking at

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:06:55AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:08:03 +1000, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: Version number comparison is checked with 'dpkg --compare-versions', and the format is checked automatically by various tools. I've never found it

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:08:03AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:33:44AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:13:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: __Debian Standards Document__ dpkg: * version format * maintainer scripts are run

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 07:29:57AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: To split the (often borderline) cases of specs versus guidelines seems to me to be somewhat misguided. Well, that's nice, but if our best reason is it seems to me, we're not going to get anywhere, because it seems to me to be quite

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:13:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 07:29:57AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: To split the (often borderline) cases of specs versus guidelines seems to me to be somewhat misguided. Well, that's nice, but if our best reason is it seems to me,

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 11:44:38AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: __Debian Standards Document__ dpkg: Most of the dpkg setup is so intricately connected with the packaging process, that separating out some of this seems somewhat weird. Although I guess that since this stuff is so clear and

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 01:31:26AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:40:13AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: I'd like to rewrite policy soonish. Into what, exactly? Last time this came up we had a nice flamewar about it, but didn't seem to resolve anything -- does it

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 05:34:52PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: I think this makes a lot of conceptual sense. However, I don't think that having three separate documents necessarily makes sense from a reader's or editor's point of view. I'm inclined to disagree: I don't see there being

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:40:13AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: I'd like to rewrite policy soonish. Into what, exactly? Last time this came up we had a nice flamewar about it, but didn't seem to resolve anything -- does it really make sense to do a rewrite while we as a project don't seem to

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-26 Thread John R. Daily
At (time_t)1027611024 Sebastian Rittau wrote: I would rather recommend using the existing Note tag with a Role=rationale attribute. This is a good idea. Extending DocBook with new tags is trivial, but is best done only when DocBook clearly fails to provide a needed construct. The stylesheets

Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-25 Thread Julian Gilbey
I'd like to rewrite policy soonish. I've been talking about it for ages, but life has been *so* busy I'm at an awesome summer camp right now as a mentor, and that's a 24/7 job, so it'll be a few weeks yet. Primary question right now: I know that Manoj has been talking about moving to the

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: I know that Manoj has been talking about moving to the DocBook DTD for the next version of policy. What are people's experiences with it? I use DocBook for all documents and manpages now and it works great. How does it compare to the DebianDoc DTD for what we

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-25 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:40:13AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: I know that Manoj has been talking about moving to the DocBook DTD for the next version of policy. What are people's experiences with it? How does it compare to the DebianDoc DTD for what we are likely to want to do? Could we