Re: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-16 Thread Brock Rozen
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 at 02:29, Chris Lawrence wrote about Re: Editor and...: That and the local modification business is a bit goofy; perhaps they should consider a you modify it, you change the name policy (i.e. you can't call a modified Pine UW Pine or UW PC/Pine). That would at least edge

Re: non-free suggestions again (was Re: weekly policy summary)

1999-06-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Chris == Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris Note that the common element of both proposals is that Chris someone who has non-free packages in her package list will Chris see them, and someone who doesn't won't. This really seems Chris like the best approach all 'round. Chris

Re: Bug#39463,#39482,#39493: timidity, cdrdao, cdtool has no manpage for something

1999-06-16 Thread Christoph Lameter
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: what do we gain by making a symlink to undocumented(7), The symlink is there for information to the user, that he doesn't need to provide a bug report, because this bug is already known (that's the intension of undocumented(7), as you can read

pre-proposal: get rid of undocumented(7)

1999-06-16 Thread Chris Waters
Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sometimes I check for documentation by doing a dpkg -L. I see a manpage for a certain command and do a man xxx. Result is a undocumented manpage. Very irritating. It would have saved some effort if there simply were no manpage. You know, actually,

Re: Bug#39463,#39482,#39493: timidity, cdrdao, cdtool has no manpage for something

1999-06-16 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: | 6.1. Manual pages | - | | You must install manual pages in `nroff' source form, in appropriate | places under `/usr/man'. You should only use sections 1 to 9 (see the | FSSTND for more details). You must

Re: Bug#39463,#39482,#39493: timidity, cdrdao, cdtool has no manpage for something

1999-06-16 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Christoph Lameter wrote: The symlink is there for information to the user, that he doesn't need to provide a bug report, because this bug is already known (that's the intension of undocumented(7), as you can read in this man page as well as in the policy. The

Re: pre-proposal: get rid of undocumented(7)

1999-06-16 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Chris Waters wrote: [get rid of the symlinks to undocumented(7)] OTOH, changing this would affect a lot of packages. But this shouldn't be a big problem, because removing the symlinks can be done in some seconds. And lintian can be used to inform the maintainers, that

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-16 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Francesco Tapparo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The documentation is a better place for this sort of things. From the packaging manual: `Suggests' This is used to declare that one package may be more useful with one or more others. Using this field tells the packaging

Re: non-free suggestions again (was Re: weekly policy summary)

1999-06-16 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... Yes, I argued exactly the same point when this thread came up before (on -private, where it never belonged, imo). But note that both of the proposals I mentioned would solve this quite handily -- the

Re: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-16 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 14-Jun-99, 02:06 (CDT), Brock Rozen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 at 12:22, Joseph Carter wrote about Re: Editor and...: #!/bin/bash shopt -s execfail exec ${VISUAL:-${EDITOR:-editor}} $@ Yes, I saw this. But I didn't

Re: non-maintainers seconding proposals (was: Re: weekly policy

1999-06-16 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Agreed. And again, this is not personal, just Debian must retain control. Any interested in being a part of this can simply apply for maintainer status. If that where so easy Is there any automatik mechanism to

Re: Bug#39463,#39482,#39493: timidity, cdrdao, cdtool has no manpage for something

1999-06-16 Thread Christoph Lameter
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: So what about simply removing the paragraph about undocumented.7 from the policy and change lintian to flame if there is only this symlink? Seconded.

Re: Editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Jun-99, 07:08 (CDT), Goswin Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's so hard about that? If you want pico to be the system wide default (god forbid), set EDITOR in /etc/profile and /etc/cshrc (or whatever it's called). NO, hands of

/usr/local stuff [Was Editor and sensible-editor]

1999-06-16 Thread Kyle Rose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 16-Jun-99, 07:08 (CDT), Goswin Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's so hard about that? If you want pico to be the system wide default (god

Re: System integrity...

1999-06-16 Thread Jules Bean
Chris Leishman wrote: 1) Is it policy that a package must contain a DEBIAN/md5sums file? (not all do). Should it be? 2) Is it possible to create an easily accessable copy of these md5sums on the debian servers (similar to package lists, or perhaps as a .md5sums to go

Re: /usr/local stuff [Was Editor and sensible-editor]

1999-06-16 Thread Chris Waters
Kyle Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *** profile.origWed Jun 16 12:03:43 1999 - --- profile Wed Jun 16 12:04:01 1999 *** *** 7,9 - --- 7,10 umask 002 test -x /usr/bin/check-sendfile /usr/bin/check-sendfile || /bin/true + test -f

Re: /usr/local stuff [Was Editor and sensible-editor]

1999-06-16 Thread Kyle Rose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kyle Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *** profile.origWed Jun 16 12:03:43 1999 - --- profile Wed Jun 16 12:04:01 1999 *** *** 7,9 - --- 7,10 umask 002