Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of "Configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Julian Gilbey
> if that behavior is useful. Examples? Well, I don't really think of > the /etc/init.d startup scripts as configuration files in any purest > sense; they are more acurately described as "scripts subject to local > modification" (which I personally would prefer be modified to store the > configurat

Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of "Configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Julian Gilbey
> On Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 02:45:04AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Do you know of any conffiles which are not configuration files? The > > concept of a conffile which is not a configuration file is bizarre. > > /etc/init.d/* and /etc/cron.d/* are not really configuration files for > the program

Bug#41547: PROPOSAL] Correct section 3.3 to take account of file-rc

1999-07-18 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote: > Section 3.3 currently makes reference to /etc/rc?.d as containing > symlinks to the scripts in /etc/init.d, and a detailed description of > how init uses them. It goes on, in section 3.3.3, to say: > A program is provided, `update-rc.d', to make it ea

Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of "Configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Steve Greenland
On 17-Jul-99, 20:45 (CDT), Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Note that a script that embeds configuration information (such as most > > of the files in `/etc/init.d' and `/etc/cron.{hourly,weekly,monthly}') > > is de-facto a configuration file and should be treated as suc

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
Steve Greenland wrote: > What Hamish was pointing out is that it's okay to use emacs or vi or > icepref to modify configuration files and even conffiles. The policy > proposal was in no way meant to imply that you can't write programs to > modify conffiles (either general or specific), just that t

Bug#40706: Programs that need to access every doc in the system.

1999-07-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Programs which need to refer to all Debian docs should then still be pointing to /usr/doc, until the migration is nearly complete. I'm talking about apache ( /doc/ ), dhelp, etc.

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > inetd.conf is _not_ a conffile. Ok, now I understand. In a previous mail you once wrote "conffile" when you probably meant "configuration file which is not a conffile" and this was causing somy of my confusion. Sorry for this! -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 12:44:17PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > So if this update-inetd program modifies a conffile, I am not allowed to > call it from my postinst? What's the reason for such a program then? inetd.conf is _not_ a conffile. Actually, dpkg does not know about it at all: [9:16pm] [E

Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of "Configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 02:45:04AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > Do you know of any conffiles which are not configuration files? The > concept of a conffile which is not a configuration file is bizarre. /etc/init.d/* and /etc/cron.d/* are not really configuration files for the programs in the pac

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > In short, you may not automatically modify the conffile of another package, > either from your postinst or from a program called from your postinst. > [...] > It's a very friendly solution, but later dpkg will ask them about upgrading > configuration files they've never hea

Bug#40766: Rewrite of "configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 03:26:09PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > Hess). I'd guess that Hamish generally approves...but unless I get at > least one more second, I'm going to have to let these drop. I second this proposal. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailin

Re: Data section (#38902)

1999-07-18 Thread Peter Makholm
> On Fri, Jul 16, 1999 at 02:35:04PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > Data section (#38902) > > * Proposed on 3 Jun 1999 by Darren O. Benham; seconded by Peter S > > Galbraith, Peter Makholm and Peter Makholm. I hate to say this but I think my involvment in this proposal is cursed. In the beginn

Re: Debian conflicts with FHS on /usr/include/{linux,asm}

1999-07-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jul 13, 1999 at 10:15:42AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > Personally I think /usr/src/linux should GO AWAY. Every sysadmin worth > their salt uses /usr/src/linux-version or similar with a symlink pointing > back for compatibility. It's only common sense that you don't throw away > the old

Bug#41547: [PROPOSAL] Correct section 3.3 to take account of file-rc

1999-07-18 Thread Julian Gilbey
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.0.0.0 Severity: wishlist Section 3.3 currently makes reference to /etc/rc?.d as containing symlinks to the scripts in /etc/init.d, and a detailed description of how init uses them. It goes on, in section 3.3.3, to say: A program is provided, `update-rc.d', to m

Processed: Re: weekly policy summary

1999-07-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 32448 [ACCEPTED 1999/07/18] Policy should use /etc/rcS.d instead of > /etc/rc.boot Bug#32448: [PROPOSED] Policy should suggest /etc/rcS.d instead of /etc/rc.boot Changed bug title. > severity 32448 normal Bug#32448: [ACCEPTED 1999/07/18] Polic

Bug#40767: PROPOSED] wording cleanup w.r.t. conffile/configuration file

1999-07-18 Thread Julian Gilbey
Seconded. Julian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://www.debian.org/~jdg

Bug#40766: PROPOSED] Rewrite of "Configuration files" section

1999-07-18 Thread Julian Gilbey
A few questions on the wording of this, but once those are clarified, I will second the proposal. > 4.7.1. Definitions > -- > > configuration file > A file that affects the operation of program, or provides site- > or host-specific information, or otherwis

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-07-18 Thread Julian Gilbey
retitle 32448 [ACCEPTED 1999/07/18] Policy should use /etc/rcS.d instead of /etc/rc.boot severity 32448 normal forwarded 32448 debian-policy@lists.debian.org thanks > Policy still suggests /etc/rc.boot instead of /etc/rcS.d (#32448) > * Under discussion. > * Proposed on 26 Jan 1999 by Brian S

Re: Is /etc/rc.boot/ obsolete or not?

1999-07-18 Thread Julian Gilbey
> > "Miquel" == Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Miquel> It sounds more like you want a rc.local style directory, > Miquel> not rc.boot. > > Miquel> But what is so difficult about update-rc.d? It's only one > Miquel> line in the postinst .. (and one in pr

Bug#40706: AMENDMENT 17/7/99] /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc transition

1999-07-18 Thread William Ono
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 17 Jul 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > PROPOSAL: Easing the transition from `/usr/doc' to `/usr/share/doc' > --- > > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: Data section (#38902)

1999-07-18 Thread Darren O. Benham
I would say only DFSG data. Anything on our ftp site needs to have unrestricted redistribution, really, so that we don't have to make any checks or put ourselves at risk On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 06:22:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > One comment

Re: Data section (#38902)

1999-07-18 Thread ferret
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- One comment from the ferret: Would it make any sense to divide the 'data' section into main/contrib/non-free, instead of becoming a fourth section alongside them? I can't think of any examples offhand, but I could see where some datasets might have restricted re