Bug#157131: PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Colin Walters
[ No need to CC me, btw, despite the evil the BTS does to Reply-To ] On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 23:14, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: You might want to add a warning that this needs to be tested. Some packages, like glibc or the Hurd, can not be built without optimization (for example because of inline

Bug#157131: PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Richard Braakman
This would lose a feature that I find valuable: usually, recompiling a package with the debug option will generate a binary whose symbols are compatible with the normal packaged binary. I have used this several times to chase down hard-to-find library compatibility bugs, or to interpret

Bug#157131: PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Richard Braakman wrote: This would lose a feature that I find valuable: usually, recompiling a package with the debug option will generate a binary whose symbols are compatible with the normal packaged binary. I have used this several times to chase down hard-to-find

Bug#113525: Bug#157131: [PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Please see also my comments in #113525. Ian.

Bug#157131: Bug#113525: Bug#157131: [PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 15:45, Ian Jackson wrote: Please see also my comments in #113525. I personally have no strong opinion on this, really. Whoever wrote the Rationale: part of this section obviously disagrees with you, though. Maybe machines are fast enough today in general that it isn't as

Bug#157131: PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 05:46, Richard Braakman wrote: For that matter, there are also Heisenbugs to consider: some bugs only appear in the optimized version, not the un-optimized. Compiling the debugging version with different optimization flags would make tracking down these bugs needlessly

Bug#157131: Bug#113525: Bug#157131: [PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 06:18:45PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 15:45, Ian Jackson wrote: Please see also my comments in #113525. I personally have no strong opinion on this, really. Whoever wrote the Rationale: part of this section obviously disagrees with you,

Bug#157131: PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 11:52:54PM +0100, James Troup wrote: Yes, but it's complete and utter crap; it was then and still is now. Ben ran a buildd on vore which is one of the faster buildds, but I've run both vore and some of our slower (arm, m68k) buildds and I can guarantee you that the

Processed: Re: Bug#157131: Bug#113525: Bug#157131: [PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: severity 113525 wishlist Bug#113525: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug example in policy is unhelpful Severity set to `wishlist'. merge 157131 113525 Bug#113525: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug example in policy is unhelpful Bug#157131: [PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize

Bug#157131: Bug#113525: Bug#157131: [PROPOSAL] Suggest to minimize optimization when DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contains debug

2002-08-18 Thread Colin Walters
severity 113525 wishlist merge 157131 113525 retitle 157131 [PROPOSAL] Rework DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS section thanks On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 18:52, James Troup wrote: I can guarantee you that the additional time incurred by using '-g' is so insignificant it's insulting to have to even discuss it. I