Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined

2012-04-27 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Russ et al, The patch below documents the Architecture field. It doesn't cover architecture tuples yet, but presumably once the description of architectures is in good shape it would not be hard to add a mapping from Debian arches to pathnames to section 9.1.5. Some concerns: - what should

Processed: unarchiving 190753

2012-04-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: unarchive 190753 Bug #190753 {Done: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org} [debian-policy] [AMENDMENT 12/04/2004] frown on programs in PATH with language extentions Unarchived Bug 190753 thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need

Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined

2012-04-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined): It is a bug in Debian: The multiarch tuples are not documented/defined in Debian. They are now documented on the wiki, as previously noted in this

Bug#664257: multiarch tuples are not documented/defined

2012-04-27 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Clearly I'm not the person to convince others to add multiarch tupples to their specs. I don't see why or why not. But it isn't really about convincing --- I'd be hard pressed to find someone who _doesn't_ want this stuff documented better. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear Russ, Joey, Debian Med team and evrybody, in 2010 I discussed with you in this bug (#190753) about our policy of removing suffixes from program names, and the harm it causes by breaking compatibilty between Debian system using packaged programs, and other UNIX system which installed the

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:01:52PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear Russ, Joey, Debian Med team and evrybody, Much has been said, and I am not criticizing the points that have been made in favor of renaming, nor I object to promote them to the developers at the moment where they chose a name

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 18:01:52 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I would like to know people's feeling about this. Seeing how you're about the only one in favour of removing the policy should, I'm not sure why you think raising it to tech-ctte will change that. Cheers, Julien -- To

Re: Proposal to update NMU section 5.11.1

2012-04-27 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org [120426 02:08]: Thanks for the information, I thought it was obsoleted when the closing of bugs became versionned. Before closing become versioned, the situation was more complex: Before, a upload of a .changes would behave differently depending whether

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org writes: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 18:01:52 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I would like to know people's feeling about this. Seeing how you're about the only one in favour of removing the policy should, I'm not sure why you think raising it to tech-ctte will

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:01:52PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear Russ, Joey, Debian Med team and evrybody, As proposed in 2010 (http://bugs.debian.org/190753#98), I would like to ask the Technical Comittee to reconsider our Policy, and restrict it to cases where the name of a program

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 07:11:37PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 06:01:52PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear Russ, Joey, Debian Med team and evrybody, As proposed in 2010 (http://bugs.debian.org/190753#98), I would like to ask the Technical Comittee to reconsider

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr writes: The constitution does not grant the tech commitee the authority to override the policy process. Hm, I don't believe that's the case. Constitution 6.1.1 explicitly says: The Technical Committee may: 1. Decide on any matter of

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr writes: 5. No detailed design work. The Technical Committee does not engage in design of new proposals and policies. Such design work should be carried out by individuals privately or together and discussed in ordinary

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Joey Hess
Charles Plessy wrote: As proposed in 2010 (http://bugs.debian.org/190753#98), I would like to ask the Technical Comittee to reconsider our Policy, and restrict it to cases where the name of a program is an interface (http://bugs.debian.org/190753#128). Actually, my message