Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread David Weinehall
doesn't have /usr/libexec Irix doesn't have /usr/libexec Oh, and what's probably more important (and relevant), the FHS doesn't mention a /usr/libexec /David _ _ // David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Northern lights wander

Bug#364982: Minor typo in upgrading checklist

2006-04-26 Thread David Weinehall
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.0.0 Severity: minor In the file upgrading-checklist.txt.gz, packages that invole initscripts now must use invoke-rc.d to do should read ... invoke ... Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window

Bug#364983: Typo in upgrading-checklist

2006-04-26 Thread David Weinehall
Packages ... Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/(/ Beautiful hoar-frost (/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields

2006-06-10 Thread David Weinehall
entries to the changelog does not magically update the date. Then I suggest you start using dch. [snip] Regards: David Weinehall -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-14 Thread David Weinehall
/bin/sh needs to support and almost no bugs related to this. Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/(/ Beautiful hoar-frost

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-14 Thread David Weinehall
[[ ]], , , -nt, -ot, -ef, $RANDOM, $..., read -e, declare, typeset, function (augh, I cannot understand why bash even introduced that one), let, source (again, completely pointless), pushd, popd, , {}... I can probably come up with more, but this is a good start. Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-14 Thread David Weinehall
of the semantics of local from any specific implementation. fname () { local a # keep it simple a='' # initialize the variable use a ... } is the only safe way to do use a local variable. Fine by me. Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-15 Thread David Weinehall
the shell isn't going to *look* at the PATH. Of course, any scripts that may be run before mounting /usr must not use /usr/bin/test... Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-15 Thread David Weinehall
reasons. First, POSIX only covers commands that *are* part of POSIX, it does not specifies that other commands are illegal. Second of all, debconf does not have a history of being a builtin, test does. Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-17 Thread David Weinehall
probably want to make exceptions for find/xargs (to get -0). [snip] Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/(/ Beautiful hoar-frost

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread David Weinehall
. Somehow I doubt that you used today's version of bash (which I bet is a lot bigger and more memory-consuming due to new features). Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread David Weinehall
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 07:09:49PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 06:37:52PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: Somehow I doubt that you used today's version of bash (which I bet is a lot bigger and more memory-consuming due to new features). Comparing bash from

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread David Weinehall
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 07:54:46PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 07:41:08PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: And compared to dash, the difference is vast: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 80200 2006-11-21 16:36 /bin/dash RSS for dash on sid seems to be 464kB. No woody

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread David Weinehall
. Isn't that enough? If you just want to avoid things breaking, it's enough. If you want to be able to use the scripts on an embedded platform, or to take advantage of the performance boost of using dash instead of bash, it isn't. Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread David Weinehall
be too big of an ordeal, but just fixing the initscripts, plus all scripts in essential should be doable. Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread David Weinehall
: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/(/ Beautiful hoar-frost (/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-23 Thread David Weinehall
On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 11:56:48AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 20:46 +0100, David Weinehall wrote: Well, let's hope people don't use any of the non-SuSv3 features of cat in their shell scripts... Why? Who cares? Well, be honest. Have you ever used any

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-24 Thread David Weinehall
, zsh, rc... Whether any of these actually consume less memory than bash, I cannot say, since I'm a bash user myself on the desktop. Yet all the scripts I write run perfectly well (and faster) in dash. Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy, version two

2006-11-25 Thread David Weinehall
... If someone feels up to. I don't really see the point. If the maintainer knows the package contains bashisms, he might just as well fix them instead. Regards: David -- /) David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond