Bug#578597: Recommend usage of dpkg-buildflags to initialize CFLAGS and al.

2010-05-01 Thread Loïc Minier
? Or perhaps: DEB_CFLAGS_SET ?= $(shell dpkg-buildflags --get CFLAGS) [...] ./configure CFLAGS=$(DEB_CFLAGS_SET) I see that's not in the man page, not sure it would make sense in policy either. Thanks -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ

Re: Add Debian revision number standards to policy?

2005-11-23 Thread Loïc Minier
as bin NMUs of Debian packages. PS: 1.2-3.0.1 binNMU gets rejected by DAK now, only 1.2-3+b1 is accepted. As I understand it, all problems that appeared in this discussion are solved with the new scheme. Bye, -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do we want? BRAINS!When do we want

Bug#379001: debian-policy: update-rc.d overrides sysadmins wishes

2006-07-20 Thread Loïc Minier
locations. The correct way to disable services is to configure the service as stopped in all runlevels in which it is started by default. In the System V init system this means renaming the service's symbolic links from S to K. Does that solve your bug? -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Processed: [ACCEPTED] virtual package 'lzh-archiver' -- an LZH archiver package

2006-10-01 Thread Loïc Minier
database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: deluser on purge (was: Piuparts testing status update)

2006-11-15 Thread Loïc Minier
of having a configuration to decide to remove user on purge or to keep them. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 SIN 20 GO TO ROBOT HELL -- Temple of Robotology -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#209008: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] common interface for parallel building in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-03-08 Thread Loïc Minier
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Bug#209008: Honoring MAKEFLAGS instead of adding new env vars?

2007-03-21 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi, Can't we simply allow passing MAKEFLAGS in the env of debian/rules instead of defining new vars? Bye, -- Loïc Minier

Bug#209008: How should the build logs be handled?

2007-04-10 Thread Loïc Minier
/build.log This is what I used in my packages: MAKEFLAGS += $(if $(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS_PARALLEL),-j2 $(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS_PARALLEL)) (It wont work with packages calling $(MAKE) -f debian/rules which should protect against adding another -j flag in the submake.) Bye, -- Loïc Minier

Re: Bug#56440: lintian: Should check for shlibs that with incorrect package name

2007-04-25 Thread Loïc Minier
. (And there was the same problem with /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/ plugins in totem.) Bye, -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#430649: Please clarify splitting/syntax of DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-06-26 Thread Loïc Minier
'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-rc5-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash -- no debconf information -- Loïc Minier

Bug#430649: Please clarify splitting/syntax of DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-06-26 Thread Loïc Minier
of keywords and parameters with parameters taking the form name=value. The allowed chars for name and values would be limited to a-z, A-Z, 1-9, dash, and underscore. -- Loïc Minier

Bug#209008: parallel building: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS or DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS_PARALLEL

2007-07-04 Thread Loïc Minier
be mentionned as a possibility instead of mentionning it in the make snippet. BTW, MAKEFLAGS also affects the make run for debian/rules, that is if you extend MAKEFLAGS, debian/rules must be -j-safe too. -- Loïc Minier

Bug#209008: parallel building: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS or DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS_PARALLEL

2007-08-04 Thread Loïc Minier
=%,%,$(filter parallel=%,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS))) MAKEFLAGS += -j$(NUMJOBS) endif But perhaps the biggest problem is that this would block us from ever allowing commas as part of the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS, for example to pass LDFLAGS=-Wl,something (which would work if only spaces are allowed). -- Loïc

Bug#209008: parallel building: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS or DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS_PARALLEL

2007-08-04 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007, Matthias Klose wrote: do it without changing DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS: What's the gain? I only see the duplication of the $(subst ) foo, and the risk to forget that DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS might be comma-separated later in debian/rules. -- Loïc Minier

Bug#209008: parallel building: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS or DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS_PARALLEL

2007-08-04 Thread Loïc Minier
such DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS: LDFLAGS=-Wl,--as-needed,parallel=2,debug LDFLAGS=-Wl,-T,link,parallel=2,debug (how would you tell where the LDFLAGS end?) -- Loïc Minier

Bug#430649: Please clarify splitting/syntax of DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-08-06 Thread Loïc Minier
+=: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=CFLAGS=-Os parallel=2 debug CFLAGS+=-g (The += words could be parsed in Make using eval for example.) -- Loïc Minier

Bug#436419: Mandatory -dbg packages for shared libraries

2007-08-07 Thread Loïc Minier
very lax dependencies in the -dbg packages and on the -dbg packages. Thanks, -- Loïc Minier

Bug#436419: Mandatory -dbg packages for shared libraries

2007-08-07 Thread Loïc Minier
build in one -dbg per source, there's no technical issue. On the other hand, renaming the -dbg to carry the SONAME is gratuitous and doesn't have any additional value. -- Loïc Minier

Bug#436419: Mandatory -dbg packages for shared libraries

2007-08-07 Thread Loïc Minier
or nautilus-file-management-properties. -- Loïc Minier

Bug#218893: Build-Options and build-arch, noopt, nostrip, ...

2007-08-16 Thread Loïc Minier
goals or to update the standard requirements in policy. -- Loïc Minier

Bug#218893: Build-Options and build-arch, noopt, nostrip, ...

2007-08-17 Thread Loïc Minier
, and what I would like is simply to have this standard way of detecting what a package supports. -- Loïc Minier

Re: Proposalto introduce compiler options passed from dpkg-buildpackage

2007-12-06 Thread Loïc Minier
) profit??? Not constraining the interface if we don't need to? There's a huge difference in possibilities between any script and a Makefile. Yes, we can do it in other ways, such as defining which flags or env vars have to be honored, or which files have to be read. -- Loïc Minier

Re: Bug#432564: Allow debian/rules to not be a makefile

2007-12-06 Thread Loïc Minier
the list of targets (to check for build-arch for example) with a make flag wont work either (Policy doesn't require it anyway) So arguing that you can pretend that your rules are a makefile while they are actually not is completely destroying the only benefit of the requirement... -- Loïc

Re: Proposalto introduce compiler options passed from dpkg-buildpackage

2007-12-06 Thread Loïc Minier
want it recorded that some people do think it's a bad idea to require debian/rules to be a Makefile; I hope it will discourages people to rely on this. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposalto introduce compiler options passed from dpkg-buildpackage

2007-12-06 Thread Loïc Minier
let us paint him as an irrational bigot. I am going to ignore this as the logical fallacy that it is. I didn't say you were irrational; still your response vastly proves my point: that you're not reading in a mindset where you could reconsider your position. -- Loïc Minier

Re: Bug#432564: Allow debian/rules to not be a makefile

2007-12-06 Thread Loïc Minier
; the new part is to actually rely on that. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposalto introduce compiler options passed from dpkg-buildpackage

2007-12-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007, Russ Allbery wrote: I think we need a clear consensus to change it, and I haven't gotten the impression that such a consensus exists. (Fair enough.) -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Proposalto introduce compiler options passed from dpkg-buildpackage

2007-12-06 Thread Loïc Minier
/null) build-%: PYTHON=`which python$*` ./configure ... build: $(PYVERS:%=build-%) And it doesn't even conflict with implemeting build-arch; it just makes the test make moot. glib2.0 has a very similar example for each of its flavors (deb and udeb). -- Loïc

Bug#432564: Proposalto introduce compiler options passed from dpkg-buildpackage

2007-12-11 Thread Loïc Minier
://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy (and I didn't touch it! :) -- Loïc Minier

Bug#430649: New proposed wording for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-12-31 Thread Loïc Minier
packages; perhaps slightly harder to read the first time, but soon becomes a well known line which eats less space. -- Loïc Minier

Re: Bug#461440: libgtk2.0-0: Must not use a symlink for /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0

2008-01-18 Thread Loïc Minier
are useful to save space on e.g. live CDs where /usr/share/doc proliferation has a non-negligible cost (some MBs). -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#461440: libgtk2.0-0: Must not use a symlink for /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-0

2008-01-18 Thread Loïc Minier
. That's still quite big. :-/ -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Loïc Minier
system. Of course these are usually shipped with the upstream tarballs, but are often missing/incomplete. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-18 Thread Loïc Minier
on aclocal). -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-06 Thread Loïc Minier
) - kontact and evolution - fits different to different people These don't have an OnlyShowIn here and should show up in KDE menus. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian GNOME Policy?

2008-08-21 Thread Loïc Minier
in maintaining a GNOME subpolicy document, I guess he could try collecting information with us. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-18 Thread Loïc Minier
-dev = 1.14.17 bdep of course. Please announce it to devel-announce if you end up deciding to revert these CFLAGS. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

DEB_VENDOR and forks

2009-03-18 Thread Loïc Minier
if we could express some inheritance concept so that you can have conditional behavior in rules based on either this distribution and its derivatives or only for this exact distribution and logical combinations such as derivatives of Foo except derivatives of Bar. -- Loïc Minier

Re: DEB_VENDOR and forks

2009-03-18 Thread Loïc Minier
any good idea. I think I'd be fine with either an external tool or environment vars, but in any case the handling of specific vendor and inherited vendors should be similar IMO. Thanks! -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: DEB_VENDOR and forks

2009-03-18 Thread Loïc Minier
is not good enough for e.g. derivatives of Ubuntu as they want to fork the Ubuntu behavior and patches etc. -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: DEB_VENDOR and forks

2009-03-18 Thread Loïc Minier
think I'd personally prefer erroring out to raise the issue, but that's only if there's a sane way to handle that properly, which could be your DEB_VENDORS proposal. ] -- Loïc Minier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-05-10 Thread Loïc Minier
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Bug#329762: Relaxation and documentation of the -fPIC constraint

2005-09-23 Thread Loïc Minier
and fixes to the debian-policy@ readers. Bye, -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.9-1-k7 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Come, your destiny awaits! Index: policy.sgml

Bug#329762: Relaxation and documentation of the -fPIC constraint

2005-09-23 Thread Loïc Minier
OS should not be too GCC, i386, or ELF specific. Hence, I think the developers-reference might be a better place to document best practices, or expected practices. Bye, -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Add Debian revision number standards to policy?

2005-11-21 Thread Loïc Minier
prefer the functionality be described as such. I suppose all of this would best be described by examples, and BNF rules or regular expressions. 2c, -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL