Bug#1027832: debian-policy: Please clarify that priority required packages are not automatically build essential

2023-01-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 22:14:10 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hello. This is an attempt to put the basis for fixing this bug: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837060 > > As an example, packages tzdata, mount or e2fsprogs are not build-essential > and afaik have not been

Bug#941803: debian-policy: dependencies on font packages

2019-11-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 09:44:25PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > Policy section 11.8.5, point 1 says > > > If one or more of the fonts so packaged are necessary for proper > > operation of the package with which they are associated the font > > package may be Recommended; if the fonts merely

Bug#824495: Use of the Build-Conflicts field

2019-02-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On 2/16/19 7:08 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, February 15, 2019 08:59:41 PM Sean Whitton wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Use of the Build-Conflicts field is currently mostly optional, but Ian >> Jackson and I have been working on text for Debian Policy that would >> require its use in certain

Re: [Pkg-rust-maintainers] Bug#913572: Shouldn't shipping broken symlinks be against policy?

2018-11-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On 11/14/18 9:07 AM, Angus Lees wrote: > Suggestions welcome - I imagine this is not a unique situation.  I think > our options are: > - no rust-gdb manpage at all > - a .so stub or symlink to gdb.1 (current situation) > - a manually-created stub manpage that just refers the reader to >

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:41:48 +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > Package: debian-policy > > Hello, > > the policy lacks guidelines on how to treat user-provided configuration > files during configuration purging in packages for programs that follow the > "stateless" paradigm (default in

Bug#904248: Beginnings of a patch to add netbase to build-essential

2018-08-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On 08/04/2018 07:14 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Sean Whitton writes ("Beginnings of a patch to add netbase to > build-essential"): >> Ian also thinks that package builds should be able to access the >> information normally contained in /etc/protocols and /etc/services by >> means of the C standard

Bug#685746: Seeking seconds for a patch to deal with remaining issues in this old bug

2018-07-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On 07/23/2018 04:45 AM, Sean Whitton wrote: > control: tag -1 +patch > > Hello, > > Seeking seconds: > > diff --git a/policy/ch-relationships.rst b/policy/ch-relationships.rst > index 1eaa422..03f5918 100644 > --- a/policy/ch-relationships.rst > +++ b/policy/ch-relationships.rst > @@ -228,6

Bug#855320: developers-reference: Please do not recommend debrsign

2018-07-04 Thread Julien Cristau
Control: tag -1 - patch On 02/16/2017 07:44 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > Package: developers-reference > Version: 3.4.18 > Severity: normal > Control: tags -1 patch > Control: affects -1 devscripts > This bug doesn't seem to actually include a patch. Cheers, Julien

Bug#787816: Replace FHS 2.3 by FHS 3.0 in the Policy.

2018-07-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On 07/03/2018 11:56 AM, Simon McVittie wrote: > How about the attached patch? > > Complete patch series (including non-normative) updated here: > https://salsa.debian.org/smcv/policy/merge_requests/1/diffs > Seconded. Cheers, Julien

Bug#864615: please update version of posix standard for scripts (section 10.4)

2018-07-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On 06/15/2018 02:06 PM, Sean Whitton wrote: > Patch: > >> diff --git a/policy/ch-files.rst b/policy/ch-files.rst >> index 90ae58a..f31a3b4 100644 >> --- a/policy/ch-files.rst >> +++ b/policy/ch-files.rst >> @@ -203,9 +203,9 @@ may instead be easier to check the exit status of >> commands

Bug#816515: Disallow (< ...) and (> ...) package relations

2016-03-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 15:33:53 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > >The relations allowed are ‘<<’, ‘<=’, ‘=’, ‘>=’ and ‘>>’ for strictly > >earlier, earlier or equal, exactly equal, later or equal and strictly > >later, respectively. The deprecated forms ‘<’ and ‘>’ were confusingly > >used to mean

Re: [developers-reference] 01/01: Change ftp-master-mirror to coccia.debian.org

2015-12-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 23:23:22 +, Anthony Fok wrote: > This is an automated email from the git hooks/post-receive script. > > foka pushed a commit to branch master > in repository developers-reference. > > commit ab0b6f45b3eb561da0a25bb4a2f444ce0b410759 > Author: Anthony Fok

Bug#568374: debian-policy: section "8.4 Development files" not explicit enough regarding libraryname[soversion]-dev

2015-10-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:06:50 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest to change > > | If there are development files associated with a shared > | library, the source package needs to generate a binary > | development package named librarynamesoversion-dev, or if you > | prefer

Bug#798476: debian-policy: don't require Uploaders

2015-09-09 Thread Julien Cristau
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist Hi, for some time I've been uploading packages with Maintainer set to a mailing list and no Uploaders field. In cases where some package kind of fit within a team, but noone cares specifically about that individual package, I feel it's better than

Bug#798476: debian-policy: don't require Uploaders

2015-09-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 22:30:10 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 09:57:27PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 21:54:29 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 09:10:31PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:

Bug#798476: debian-policy: don't require Uploaders

2015-09-09 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 21:54:29 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 09:10:31PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > Package: debian-policy > > Severity: wishlist > > > > Hi, > > > > for some time I've been uploading packages wi

Re: dh: Install binaries to /usr/games if Section=games

2015-09-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 22:17:33 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > I think Debian Policy should consider relaxing the "should" in §11.11 > (btw, is that normative even when written in lowercase?). > Debian Policy doesn't use RFC's uppercase SHOULD/MUST/MAY anywhere... Cheers, Julien signature.asc

Re: debian/copyright in source package

2015-08-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 20:45:43 +0200, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: But policy says that there should be such a copyright file. Violating such a clause is at least an important bug. It's *at most* an important bug: These classifications are roughly equivalent to the bug severities

Re: debian/copyright in source package

2015-08-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 18:09:16 +0200, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Julien Cristau wrote: FWIW I disagree with this change, I don't think making a new requirement for source packages is the way to solve NEW review workflow. Oh, lintian already complains about a missing

Re: debian/copyright in source package

2015-08-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 11:44:10 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear Santiago and everybody, how about the following ? (in section 4.5) --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -1822,12 +1822,16 @@ zope. sect id=dpkgcopyright headingCopyright:

Bug#794234: developers-reference: quinn-diff is gone

2015-08-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 20:47:08 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 08:12:28AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : I think that the mention of quinn-diff can be removed from the Developer's Reference. This can be done in two ways. - Remove §A.7.1 on quinn-diff. Then

Bug#679751: Lintian now detect package pointing to /home

2015-08-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 13:16:24 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: Hi! On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 11:34:20 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: Lintian now detect script creating user pointing to /home. After a chat under #debian-qa it

Bug#792853: debian-policy: please disallow colons in upstream_version

2015-07-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 13:48:14 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist Policy §5.6.12 reads: “The upstream_version may contain only alphanumerics and the characters ‘.’ ‘+’ ‘-’ ‘:’ ‘~’ (full stop, plus, hyphen, colon, tilde) and should start with a digit. […]

Bug#765499: Patch to make policy document 32-bit uids

2015-02-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 23:38:24 +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:28:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Bill Allombert ballo...@debian.org writes: + tag4294967294:/tag + item + p + tt(uid_t)(-2) == (gid_t)(-2)/tt emmust +

Bug#726998: Add a footnote about example.org

2014-04-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 23:53:46 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: Even example.org is not safe because registered could be possible to add a footnote I'm afraid I don't understand what you're trying to say above. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#741304: add FHS exception for arch-indep in /usr/lib

2014-03-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 18:39:20 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: So, I propse adding to the list of exceptions in policy section 9.1.1: The FHS requirement that architecture-independent application-specific static files be located in /usr/share is relaxed to a suggestion. In particular,

Bug#707183: debian-policy: Removal of the FHS exception for the /selinux directory

2013-09-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:45:48 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 2708242..90ae9fe 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -7021,15 +7021,14 @@ Built-Using: grub2 (= 1.99-9), loadlin (= 1.6e-1) stable release of Debian supports

Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-08-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 08:00:55 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: does the current patch (attached) address your concerns ? If yes, would you second it ? Sorry, I don't feel confident to second anything trigger-related. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:27:19 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hi, On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: About the problem of triggers being called with Depends not satisfied, can you give more explanations or suggest some text for the warning ? Would it be enough to add a

Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-07-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:26:01 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:09:17AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : On Sun, 12 May 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: I also added through the ttinterst/tt or ttactivate/tt directives after When a configured package activates

Bug#685646: Correction for stable versioning, please apply

2013-05-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 20:53:28 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: Hi, There's been quite some confusion lately over the right version scheme for uploads to stable(-security), and it doesn't help that the devref's advice is not currently correct. Can you please apply attached patch swiftly?

Bug#708290: Advise to use codename-security instead of stable-security

2013-05-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 22:18:09 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: Package: developers-reference Tags: patch Hi, Attached patch updates the developer's reference to advise people to use wheezy-security and the likes for security updates, not stable-security. Applied, thanks. Cheers,

Bug#685646: Please advise a reliable version scheme for {stable,testing}{,-security}

2013-05-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 18:01:48 -0400, David Prévot wrote: As discussed on #d-release, the version scheme advice could be improved, so should the distribution declared in changelog, for the testing and {old,}stable upload (including the -security ones), in order to have only one scheme to

Bug#701081: debian-policy: mandate an encoding for filenames in binary packages

2013-03-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:51:45 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: tag 701081 patch thanks Dear all, I think that it emerges from the discussion that there are good uses of Unicode, and that somebody would need to step up and ensure that a dozen of packages are corrected if we were to

Bug#571776: document symbols

2012-08-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 14:25:12 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Okay, once more for the win. Here is the current version of the patch, incorporating substantial improvements from Jonathan Nieder and hopefully incorporating all the feedback in subsequent discussion. I'm looking for seconds so

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between required and important priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 15:31:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Could someone who has the time to put together a script for this check to see whether this is actually true? (Namely, that the only thing in required are essential packages and their dependencies.) As far as I can tell the

Bug#662649: base-files: Request inclusion of Creative Commons licenses in /usr/share/common-licenses

2012-04-30 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 21:23:47 +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: reopen 662649 reassign 662649 debian-policy thanks On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:03:55PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: On Mon, 5 Mar 2012, Guus Sliepen wrote: Package: base-files Version: 6.7 Severity: wishlist

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 18:01:52 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I would like to know people's feeling about this. Seeing how you're about the only one in favour of removing the policy should, I'm not sure why you think raising it to tech-ctte will change that. Cheers, Julien -- To

Bug#663762: debian-policy: default for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=N

2012-03-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 23:10:46 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist How should packages behave if there is no explicit parallel=N in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS? I saw two different approaches: 1) Behave (roughly) like if parallel=1 was set. 2) Be clever and try

Bug#571776: document symbols

2012-03-20 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 17:26:04 -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: These dependencies must be added to the binary package when it is built, since they may change This means packages must not hard-code library dependencies. It also seems like good policy, but I

Bug#661928: debian-policy: recipe for determining shlib package name

2012-03-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 18:51:10 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist Lintian suggests the following command to determine correct name for a shared library package: objdump -p /path/to/libfoo-bar.so.1.2.3 | sed -n -e's/^[[:space:]]*SONAME[[:space:]]*//p' |

Bug#498300: specify that architecture-specific dependencies must have a non-empty list of architectures

2012-01-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 08:32:55 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index c1ff4b4..0f1dbf9 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -4628,7 +4628,7 @@ Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.1), exim | mail-transport-agent Relationships may be restricted to a

Bug#621833: System user handling in packages: status of discussion

2011-06-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:00:14 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Would lockuser need to be in the adduser package? Given that adduser is only priority:important, it's not guaranteed to be present when postrm is run, so the operation could fail. Maybe passwd is a better place for it, given that it

Bug#630174: debian-policy: forbid installation into /lib64

2011-06-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 13:49:53 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Currently, section 9.1.1 relaxes the FHS requirement that /lib64 and /usr/lib64 be used, but it doesn't prohibit installing files in that location. However, due to the way Debian handles this (with symlinks), bad things happen in

Bug#620566: dpkg: version number does not start with digit is in contrast to policy

2011-04-03 Thread Julien Cristau
Full quoting because you didn't cc the policy list when reassigning... On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 05:03:47 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: reassign 620566 debian-policy severity 620566 normal tags 620566 patch retitle 620566 Sync upstream version format with what dpkg accepts now thanks On Sat,

Bug#587377: debian-policy: Decide on arbitrary file/path names limit

2011-03-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 22:17:32 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: If I had to make a proposal, I'd suggest maxima of _XOPEN_PATH_MAX / 2 (= 512) for paths, to leave room for chroots _XOPEN_NAME_MAX - 16 (= 239) for filenames, to leave room for .dpkg-divert.tmp. Forget ReiserFS 3. :) I

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 22:40:52 +, Roger Leigh wrote: From discussion on IRC earlier this evening, it looks like the most pragmatic approach will be to get the apt and aptitude sbuild resolvers to strip the alternatives (after arch reduction), which will make them behave pretty much

Bug#613046: debian-policy: please update example in 4.9.1 (debian/rules and DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS)

2011-02-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 15:14:04 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: That said helper tools like dh should be free to use dpkg-buildflags to set environment variables that ./configure and other similar calls can inspect and use. The usual way to pass CFLAGS to configure is as a command line

Bug#613046: debian-policy: please update example in 4.9.1 (debian/rules and DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS)

2011-02-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 14:25:40 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.1.0 Severity: minor Hey The example in 4.9.1 suggests to set CFLAGS in a way that completely overrides values from dpkg-buildpackage/dpkg-buildflags[1]: CFLAGS = -Wall -g This will set

Bug#522776: C.UTF-8 in squeeze (was: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised locale)

2011-01-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:44:56 +, Roger Leigh wrote: This will only be done with the approval of the release team, who I've copied in. I don't think that's not going to happen. Try again for wheezy, and maybe you can manage not to wait until the last minute of the freeze. Cheers,

Bug#522776: C.UTF-8 in squeeze (was: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised locale)

2011-01-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:57:05 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:44:56 +, Roger Leigh wrote: This will only be done with the approval of the release team, who I've copied in. I don't think that's not going to happen. Try again for wheezy

Bug#607363: developers-reference: Wrong recommendations for forked NMUs

2010-12-17 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 14:18:06 +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Futhermore lintian warns when using +deb60u1, and it seems to confuse the bts a bit. See for example the version graph #603456, placing testings nagiosgrapher/1.7.1-2+deb60u1 above unstables nagiosgrapher/1.7.1-2.1, I'm

Re: [patch] experimental and uploads to unstable

2010-12-03 Thread Julien Cristau
get -them closed. -/para /section /section FWIW: Acked-by: Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#593909: Names of Fields in Control Files

2010-10-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 00:18:49 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: From: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:14:42 +0900 Subject: [PATCH] Clarification of the format of control files, Closes: #501930, #593909. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Bug#488214: make mailx a registered virtual package name

2010-08-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:31:59 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Piotr Kaczuba p...@attika.ath.cx writes: Before 1.2.65 logcheck depended on mailx, which was and still is provided by both mailutils and bsd-mailx. Now that logcheck depends explicitly on

Re: Policy 3.9.1 planning

2010-07-20 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 17:43:09 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: So there are three or four things above that we could leave off. Would people like me to try to trim the checklist down by removing things like shlibs.local that probably no one is using? Actually there are packages using

Bug#555977: debian-policy: Constraints on binary package control files

2010-07-19 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:49:31 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index c0415c1..9aca16c 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -8014,6 +8014,12 @@ endscript /footnote /p + p + Control information files should be owned

Bug#509933: versioning SONAMEs of shared libraries is not clearly recommended

2010-07-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 18:27:33 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: On 13/07/10 04:11, Russ Allbery wrote: [...] + sect id=sharedlibs-runtime + headingRun-time shared libraries/heading + + p + The run-time shared library must be placed in a package + whose name

Bug#186102: version numbering for date-releases is flawed

2010-07-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 09:58:39 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: I therefore think we should rewrite this whole section to remove most of the details and instead just say not to ever use date-based formats like 96May01 and instead use something based off

Bug#556015: debian-policy: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Julien Cristau
Sorry for coming back to this, I think I missed this new requirement initially (or I skipped this thread, I don't remember...). On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 23:28:11 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Le Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:22:37PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :

Bug#186102: version numbering for date-releases is flawed

2010-07-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 19:31:43 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: However, I think this whole bit really doesn't belong in Policy. For packages that are snapshot-based with no regular version number but one that might show up later, I'd use 0~MMDD. For ones that are pre-releases, I'd use

Bug#588085: debian-policy: require that package-provided code never calls init scripts directly without the user's direction

2010-07-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 14:11:17 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: A possible way to implement this state-based policy without relying on the underlying boot system would be to require packages and users to never call init script directly and to make service(8) the interface to init scripts for

Bug#509932: shlibs format only addresses one versioning structure

2010-07-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:15:38 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 1e641e6..9a72be5 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -5470,8 +5470,13 @@ Replaces: mail-transport-agent pfiledebian/shlibs.local/file/p p -

Bug#509932: shlibs format only addresses one versioning structure

2010-07-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:19:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 9a72be5..2a634b8 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -5654,7 +5654,11 @@ objdump -p /usr/lib/libz.so.1.1.3 | grep SONAME /example /footnote The

Bug#218897: Explicitily disallow adding local diversion by package

2010-06-30 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:21:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 9fe7158..587a6b2 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -1214,9 +1214,11 @@ /p p - You should not use prgndpkg-divert/prgn on a file - belonging to

Bug#561413: Policy possibly should not recommend *.la files

2010-06-30 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:06:04 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 9fe7158..2635fa8 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -7361,40 +7361,58 @@ strip --strip-unneeded varyour-lib/var /p p - An ever increasing number of

Re: Accepted sdm 0.4.1-2 (source all)

2010-06-26 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:57:45 +, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: sdm (0.4.1-2) unstable; urgency=low . [...] * No longer include dash as a dependency; it is included in essential. * Add lintian overrides for missing-dep-for-interpreter dash, as dash is now essential. My

Bug#328951: Clarification for difference between Build-Depends and Build-Depends-Indep (Section 7.6)

2010-06-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:24:07 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: - tagttBuild-Depends-Indep/tt, - ttBuild-Conflicts-Indep/tt/tag + tagttbuild/tt, ttbuild-indep/tt, ttbinary/tt, + and ttbinary-indep/tt/tag item -The

Bug#347581: debian-policy: Explicitly permit *-headers binary package created from library source package

2010-06-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 13:01:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 720150d..1e134bb 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -5163,11 +5163,20 @@ Replaces: mail-transport-agent headingDevelopment files/heading p - The

Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2010-06-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 13:29:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 720150d..23a8c90 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -2488,8 +2488,6 @@ Package: libc6 The syntax and semantics of the fields are described below. /p -!--

Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2010-06-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 13:29:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Objections or seconds? With the typo fixed, seconded. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#555978: debian-policy: Forbid duplicate fields in control files

2010-06-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:58:28 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Objections or seconds? diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 87b9795..99ab0ff 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -2398,6 +2398,11 @@ Package: libc6 /p p + Each paragraph may contain at

Bug#571776: debian-policy: Libraries should be allowed to not provide shlibs when they provide symbols file

2010-02-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 09:34:50 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.4.0 Severity: wishlist AFAIK, the current version of dpkg in stable supports symbols files, so I think it is time we loosen the requirement for shlibs files when symbols files are present.

Bug#566220: [PATCH] Clarify “copyright and distribution license”

2010-02-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 21:33:29 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Packages must include a copyright or lack-of-copyright statement in debian/copyright. Claims that the policy never meant copyright notices were supposed to be included in the first place only muddle the discussion. This says

Re: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-02-09 Thread Julien Cristau
Coming back to an old patch... On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 23:42:21 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 0bf1001..45d6643 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -2726,7 +2726,12 @@ Package: libc6 values: list

Re: Inquiry about log timestamps

2010-02-05 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 03:06:17 -0500, Borden Rhodes wrote: Good morning, I have a question regarding timestamps in Debian package logs. One of my biggest frustrations when troubleshooting problems with Xorg, for example, is that the .xsession-errors and Xorg.log entries are not time

Bug#566220: [PATCH] Clarify verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution license

2010-01-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 22:25:56 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.3.0 Tags: patch User: debian-pol...@packages.debian.org Usertags: informative Clarify what is meant by verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution license to be explicit about what

Bug#554054: , #554077: s/ftp-master.debian.org/ftp.upload.debian.org/ etc.

2009-11-15 Thread Julien Cristau
/misc. The second depends on the first. fwiw Reviewed-by: Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Bug#555980: debian-policy: No policy on statically linked binaries

2009-11-15 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 18:55:45 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Where was announced the requirement from the FTP team ? http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg4.html Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Bug#542865: Grant an FHS exception for the multiarch library directories

2009-09-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 20:50:30 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 0bf8253..347c0bf 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -5584,6 +5584,40 @@ libbar 1 bar1 (= 1.0-1) /item item p +

FHS and X manual pages

2009-09-07 Thread Julien Cristau
Hi, it's been pointed out to me that we violate FHS ever since [1] is included in Debian. The FHS says All X Window System manual pages must have an x appended to the filename. Now there are some options. 1) add an exception in policy to allow the removal of this x suffix 2) revert this change

Re: FHS and X manual pages

2009-09-07 Thread Julien Cristau
Please don't remove the debian-x cc… On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 15:49:52 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:29:09PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: Hi, it's been pointed out to me that we violate FHS ever since [1] is included in Debian. The FHS says All X Window

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2009-09-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 23:38:17 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: That's unfortunate. Imagine the following scenario: 1. Package P is released in sarge, with version 1.0-1. 2. Package P is installed on a system S, running sarge. 3. etch is released with P 1.0-1. 4. A security bug is found in P.

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2009-09-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 14:06:17 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:39:40AM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 23:38:17 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: That's unfortunate. Imagine the following scenario: 1. Package P is released in sarge

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 18:37:05 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: 2) These packages may just symlink /usr/share/doc/${package name}-${debug suffix} to /usr/share/doc/${package name} (and of course, depend on ${package name} 5) There may only be

Bug#224509: Don't require a TTY during maintainer script execution

2009-08-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 19:43:29 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I think at this point, now that debconf is mandatory for all but essential packages, removing the guarantee of a controlling terminal is uncontroversial. This bug has been open for a while and I'd like to put it to bed. Here's

Bug#493007: debian-policy: Please recommend tracking translation status of l10n man pages

2009-08-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 13:37:39 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: The following wording has received one second and needs an additional second to be committed to the next revision of Policy. Is everyone happy with it? --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -8885,6 +8885,15 @@ name

Bug#534408: Installed-Size wording

2009-08-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 16:02:50 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes: Russ Allbery wrote: Sorry about the delay in dealing with this. I've now committed: sect1 id=f-Installed-Size headingttInstalled-Size/tt/heading p

Re: Proposal: Merge Package Name Parts (Sec. 5.6.1 and 5.6.7)

2009-07-23 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:57:04 -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote: Oh. Interesting. I was (clearly) unaware of that. How recently was this? What was the reasoning behind it? I think this is the part where you do your homework. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as kilobytes but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-07-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 13:29:48 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: I formally object to the part '(in other words, the size in kibibytes)'. (I believe this change is not informative and only serve the purpose of endorsing a standard which does not meet consensus in Debian.) +1. Cheers, Julien

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 23:54:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org writes: Ping Russ? :) Sorry about the long delay on the rewrite of the X installation directory section. Here's proposed rewording for the whole section. How does this look to everyone

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:20:51 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: As far as branches are concerned, the default branch should point to the debian packaging branch and that's it. And how do you do that, when the debian and upstream repos are the same? That seems to be a fairly arbitrary

Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as kilobytes but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-06-24 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 19:13:23 -0700, Martin Dorey wrote: debian-policy appears to define Installed-Size's units as thousands of bytes: 5.6.20 Installed-Size This field appears in the control files of binary packages, and in the Packages files. It gives the total amount of disk space

Bug#490605: debian-policy: please discourage the usage of echo -n, and echo in general

2009-06-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:53:19 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Thu, 04 Jun 2009, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: It is not an alternative: - It is ugly - it is not on root partition The ugly part it is IMHO the most important part. Ugliness is relative. I have no problem with printf.

Bug#530687: debian-policy: Please provide policy for architecture wildcards

2009-05-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:50:42 -0400, Andres Mejia wrote: @@ -2723,7 +2725,8 @@ Package: libc6 In the main filedebian/control/file file in the source package, or in the source package control file file.dsc/file, one may specify a list of architectures -

Bug#530687: debian-policy: Please provide policy for architecture wildcards

2009-05-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 07:30:57 -0400, Andres Mejia wrote: On Wednesday 27 May 2009 06:51:58 Julien Cristau wrote: This makes it sound like you can't mix architecture names and architecture wildcards. Is that on purpose? Current policy has this wording and I didn't want to change

Re: Policy about distribution field in control files

2009-04-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 16:07:27 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Hi, I noticed that Debian policy (§5.6.14) states that the control field distribution may contain several distributions (comma-separated). But the space-separated, actually. Debien Developers Reference (§5.5) states that “is

Bug#525151: Clarify format of source package name

2009-04-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 16:40:34 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 0140043..144cbfb 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -2588,6 +2588,14 @@ Package: libc6 package control file when the source package has the same name and

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 05:08:38 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: how about: p The installation of files into subdirectories of file/usr/X11R6//fileis now prohibited. Include files should be installed into file/usr/include/X11//file. For files

Re: does /var/games have to be deleted on purge? (if it's empty..)

2009-04-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 02:30 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Or is RC too much? Or fine now? Anything normal would be too much IMO. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

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