Bug#660705: marked as done ([proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation)

2017-08-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 11 Aug 2017 12:44:51 -0700 with message-id <87o9rlx51o@iris.silentflame.com> and subject line Closing inactive Policy bugs has caused the Debian Bug report #660705, regarding [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation to be marked as done. This

Bug#660705: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2015-12-15 Thread Tomasz Buchert
Hi guys, I made a small experiment to test whether using xz to compress docs is a viable idea. Here is my repo with the results from my Debian machine: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/tomasz/changelog.git I have around 5000 packages, but the stats should be "percentage-wise

Bug#660705: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2015-05-09 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:51:42AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.2 Severity: wishlist On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 09:17:16PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, During a recent discussion on

Re: Bug#660705: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2014-11-19 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:51:42AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given input file. While it was shown that removing the requirement to compress

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:09:15AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: There's more than just my /usr. This system runs off a 160GB SSD, so 500MB is more like 0.5% of the available storage space here. 160GB is in the low end of the available storage of modern systems, and probably (gut

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 07:09:40PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: Debian is used on small systems where users still like to have documentation, and support zlib compression is

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:01:42AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 07:09:40PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: Debian is used on small systems where users still

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
There's more than just my /usr. This system runs off a 160GB SSD, so 500MB is more like 0.5% of the available storage space here. 160GB is in the low end of the available storage of modern systems, and probably (gut feeling) about average of systems bought in the past few years (my

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: […] As such, I believe the requirement to compress files is an anachronism that we should get rid of. Thoughts? In general, I agree with the rationale in principle. I think it's possibly important to note that given that the

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-02-20, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote: --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown that gzip does not

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes: - Compressing documentation files incurs an additional step on the user who wants to read said documentation. Yes, there is zless and zmore. However, there is no ziceweasel, zpdf-reader[2] or zgv. Even if such tools do exist, we would still

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: I think the same argument can be made for PDF and text files; while it's true some tools can cope with the compression, the number of times I tab complete a less /usr/share/doc/xxx command to find it's an unreadable mess, and have to repeat that with

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given input file. Hello Wouter, While it was shown that removing the requirement to

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Bill Allombert bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr, 2012-02-20, 18:02: iceweasel handle compressed file fine Oh, does it? I just tried to open /usr/share/doc/ccache/changelog.html.gz and it gave me the following options: * Open with /bin/tar (default) * Save file I can't say I'm

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:49:15PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Bill Allombert bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr, 2012-02-20, 18:02: iceweasel handle compressed file fine Oh, does it? I just tried to open /usr/share/doc/ccache/changelog.html.gz and it gave me the following options: * Open

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given input file.

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: As such, I believe the requirement to compress files is an anachronism that we should get rid of. I do not like removing a useful requirement in exchange for nothing. Debian is used on small systems where users still like to

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Iustin Pop
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given input file. While it was shown that removing the requirement to compress

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.2 Severity: wishlist On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 09:17:16PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown that gzip does not always

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 07:09:40PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: Debian is used on small systems where users still like to have documentation, and support zlib compression is almost universal. I would not have any objection

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes: To be a bit more specific on this: such a tool could be implemented fairly trivially with a dpkg trigger. Just register a trigger that triggers on any file under /usr/share/doc, and have it call gzip --best on the files it is called with. It would be

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given input file. While it was shown that removing the requirement to compress documentation

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes: To be a bit more specific on this: such a tool could be implemented fairly trivially with a dpkg trigger. Just register a trigger that triggers on any file under /usr/share/doc, and have it call gzip --best

[proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given input file. While it was shown that removing the requirement to compress documentation would not solve the issue (i.e., the problem was larger than