Hi,
Santiago Vila:
As it has been pointed out by others, whenever we have a set of
mutually conflicting packages performing the same task, the package
having optional priority is the one that we recommend among them.
It is a way to tell the user in doubt, use this one.
… which also
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Bug #759260 {Done: Gerrit Pape p...@dbnbgs.smarden.org} [debian-policy]
Remove priority extra, make all corresponding packages priority optional
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Hello again,
Here is a summary of the discussion in #759260 (cloned from #758234), regarding
the suppression of the Extra priority.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:48:15PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
One of the potential uses of the Extra priority was to allow for
co-installing all packages down to the Optional priority. However,
this goal is not seem realistic anymore given the current size of
the Debian archive, and indeed,
Hmm. We drop things when we clearly see they have no purpose, or we
see they are harmful.
For example, some people claim that the rule about priorities and
dependencies is actively harmful, and I think they have a point indeed.
In this case, however, I fail to see the rationale for actually
Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es writes:
In this case, however, I fail to see the rationale for actually
*dropping* the extra priority, other than it's not useful for me.
Well, it may be useless for you but it's still useful for me.
Basically, the rationale is simplification and reducing the
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 01:59:37PM -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Santiago Vila wrote:
In this case, however, I fail to see the rationale for actually
*dropping* the extra priority, other than it's not useful for me.
Well, it may be useless for you but it's still useful for me.
I have
Bill Allombert wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 01:59:37PM -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
And received
pushback from maintainers that don't understand what the field is for,
are confused about having to maintain it in two places
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:29:46PM -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Bill Allombert wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 01:59:37PM -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
And received
pushback from maintainers that don't understand what the field is
Le Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 03:55:26PM +0100, Santiago Vila a écrit :
The purpose is to allow the user to install as many optional packages
as he/she wants without having to bother with conflicts.
Hi Santiago,
practically speaking, how do you or others use the Optional priority to check
that a
Hi,
Charles Plessy wrote:
practically speaking, how do you or others use the Optional priority to check
that a package is not directly or transitively conflicting with another
package ?
[...]
Can you give concrete examples where the Extra priority has been instrumental
for you as a user or
Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com writes:
Someone asks you to install a package.
If the package has priority optional, you can just install it. The
vast majority of the time, it won't conflict with anything else you have
installed. Yes, there are exceptions, but for this use case, them
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