Bug#31645: marked as done ([PROPOSED] Explicitly making the Packaging Manual a Policy Document)

2001-06-10 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Home To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PROPOSED] Explicitly making the Packaging Manual a Policy Document References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09 Jan 1999 11:53:04 -0600 In-Reply-To: Robert Woodcock's message of 9 Jan 1999 16:50:47 -

Re: Incorporating packaging manual in policy

2001-02-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 02:00:07AM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Indeed. I've started writing a dpkg reference manual that will replace the packaging manual. It's going to be a completely new document though that includes the info from the packaging manual, and until I have that reasonably

Incorporating packaging manual in policy

2001-02-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
Hello Manoj and all! Firstly, well done on incorporating the packaging-policy stuff into policy. Great work! But now we have a little problem: there is this orphaned package: packaging-manual, which appears to no longer be generated from any binary package. So should we now hand it over to the

Re: Incorporating packaging manual in policy

2001-02-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Julian == Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Julian But now we have a little problem: there is this orphaned package: Julian packaging-manual, which appears to no longer be generated from any Julian binary package. So should we now hand it over to the dpkg team, and Julian upload a

Re: Incorporating packaging manual in policy

2001-02-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: I had already talked to Wichert about this before uploading the policy with packaging aspects subsumed, and he took over the packaging manuals dpkg documentation role. (Correct me I I mis remember, Wichert). Correct. So I suspect that the

Re: Packaging Manual is policy

1999-10-30 Thread Joey Hess
I tend to disagree this needs to be in policy. This should be in policy - it causes no end of problems for people doing binary only recompilations on other archs. I'm not saying it's not important! I just feel that having to delete that file every time is a technical point of trivia that

Re: Packaging Manual is policy

1999-10-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
that this has any business being in policy. I think, then, there are a few things that should be moved from the packaging to the policy manual. I would specifically point to chapter 5, on version numbering; that has gone beyond merely being what dpkg expects, and should be in policy proper

Re: Packaging Manual is policy

1999-10-28 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: I think, then, there are a few things that should be moved from the packaging to the policy manual. Agreed. But I think we should not rush this, and should go through the normal amendment process for these, with the only difference being we already have the text

Re: Packaging Manual is policy

1999-10-27 Thread Joey Hess
Julian Gilbey wrote: Reading bug #31645, it seems clear that the Packaging Manual was accepted as policy, although Joey had reservations. Should I go ahead and make the modifications Manoj proposed? I continue to disagree that this has any business being in policy. -- see shy jo

Re: Packaging Manual is policy

1999-10-27 Thread Raul Miller
Julian Gilbey wrote: Reading bug #31645, it seems clear that the Packaging Manual was accepted as policy, although Joey had reservations. Should I go ahead and make the modifications Manoj proposed? On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 09:42:54PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: I continue to disagree that

Packaging Manual is policy

1999-10-26 Thread Julian Gilbey
Reading bug #31645, it seems clear that the Packaging Manual was accepted as policy, although Joey had reservations. Should I go ahead and make the modifications Manoj proposed? Julian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of

Bug#31645: PROPOSED] Explicitly making the Packaging Manual a Policy Document

1999-01-16 Thread David Frey
seconded. David Frey

Re: [PROPOSED] Merging the packaging manual and policy packages

1999-01-10 Thread Robert Woodcock
the weight of policy. In light of this, I am inclined to agree with Manoj that the packaging manual is policy, although I ask Manoj to use a question next time he wants a group of people to state whether they agree or disagree with something. Robert Someone needs to go over it with a fine-toothed comb

Bug#31645: PROPOSED] Explicitly making the Packaging Manual a Policy Document

1999-01-10 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Too late. The packaging manual is already policy. We already have been thorugh this. The only forum that can decide what constitutes Debian policy is the Technical committee, and the policy mailing list. The policy mailing list came to the conclusion

Bug#31645: PROPOSED] Explicitly making the Packaging Manual a Policy Document

1999-01-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey I read all these. Most were sidetracked into the question of Joey the Developer's Reference. The only one I could find that Joey mentioned the Packaging manual was the last one, which did say, On the other hand, the Packaging manual seems

Re: [PROPOSED] Merging the packaging manual and policy packages

1999-01-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This act by itself I do not have any problem with. I would not complain if the two documents were in the same package. However, pretending the Packaging Manual is policy is a bad idea. It was a reference guide previously. Joey I agree

[PROPOSED] Merging the packaging manual and policy packages

1999-01-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Iff we agree that the packaging manual has the weight of Policy, I propose, as a purely packaging issue, to pull the two packages (not the documents -- the policy and the packaging manuals shall remain distinct documents). The policy manual package already contains the FSSTND

Re: [PROPOSED] Merging the packaging manual and policy packages

1999-01-09 Thread jim
will not want to read a legal document; they want a howto-get-it-done-NOW-or-YESTERDAY :) Manoj: OfCourse, if your proposal doesn't affect the content of the doc, then all might be well. If the packaging manual carries policy weight, then is it too heavy for such a situation? -Jim

Re: [PROPOSED] Merging the packaging manual and policy packages

1999-01-09 Thread Robert Woodcock
in the same package. However, pretending the Packaging Manual is policy is a bad idea. It was a reference guide previously. Tread carefully here - you entered into this conversation by rewriting history and are now severely underestimating the consequences of your actions. If you wish to turn the Policy