Re: Rs6k remote boot

1999-08-03 Thread Cort Dougan
They use OF. Same 1275 chrp binding as other boards. They'll do a typical bootp/tftp boot.a } What firmware do IBM's use? I thought they had their own implementation } of OF. If so, tftp boot is easy. If you don't find anyone else I can do it. } I sure would love an IBM tester. I don't

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Cort Dougan
If you think it's hard finding a price then try to actually purchase one. Once you get a salesperson to admit they exist getting them to sell you one is a good fight :) } Out of curiousity, what is the general price range on MTX's? I spent a } while digging around and could not find price

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Not like I could afford one of these maybe-existing boards anyway :) On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 08:24:00PM -0600, Cort Dougan wrote: If you think it's hard finding a price then try to actually purchase one. Once you get a salesperson to admit they exist getting them to sell you one is a good

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
Cort Dougan wrote: If you think it's hard finding a price then try to actually purchase one. Once you get a salesperson to admit they exist getting them to sell you one is a good fight :) } Out of curiousity, what is the general price range on MTX's? I spent a } while digging around and

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Cort Dougan
No wonder it was so hard to get one! That's why I didn't do the MTX port (although other people eventually did) - I couldn't get one of the buggers! I swear that company really hates selling its product. Too bad they're so expensive. Someone could make a killing with cheap commodity ppc boards.

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
Cort Dougan wrote: No wonder it was so hard to get one! That's why I didn't do the MTX port (although other people eventually did) - I couldn't get one of the buggers! I swear that company really hates selling its product. Well, as I understand it, the problem is this. Motorola,

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Phillip R. Jaenke wrote: 100,000+/year!) Cort, you're buddy-buddy with IBM. Get them making the Longtrail again darnit! I want about.. erm.. as many as I can afford! IBM never intended to manufacture the LongTrail. They just did the design. Manufacturing was supposed to be

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Cort Dougan wrote: If you think it's hard finding a price then try to actually purchase one. Once you get a salesperson to admit they exist getting them to sell you one is a good fight :) } Out of curiousity, what is the general price range on MTX's? I spent a } while

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Jeramy Smith
Perhaps Daystar has some boards they'll sell. Anyone know what kind of boards are in the quad 604e machines they sell?

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Hartmut Koptein
If you think it's hard finding a price then try to actually purchase one. Once you get a salesperson to admit they exist getting them to sell you one is a good fight :) } Out of curiousity, what is the general price range on MTX's? I spent a } while digging around and could not find

Re: JDB problems with glibc2 jdk1.2

1999-08-03 Thread Robert Ramiega
On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 01:59:18PM -0600, Jason E. Stewart wrote: I'm running the jdk12-pre-v2 for glibc2, and tried to use jdb. I got Is it debian package ? where can one find it ? (i found jdk 1.1.7 but it was built for glibc2 not glibc2.1 and i couldn't make it to run) -- Robert Ramiega

Re: util-linux and hwclock

1999-08-03 Thread Vincent Renardias
On 2 Aug 1999, Jason E. Stewart wrote: The util-linux pkg provides hwclock which doesn't work on PPC. Should this be removed? I can remove it from the package for the powerpc arch., but I'd rather appreciate if someone could send me the patch that would make hwclock work on powerpc (I don't

Re: util-linux and hwclock

1999-08-03 Thread Hartmut Koptein
The util-linux pkg provides hwclock which doesn't work on PPC. Should this be removed? I can remove it from the package for the powerpc arch., but I'd rather appreciate if someone could send me the patch that would make hwclock work on powerpc (I don't have a powerpc machine anymore, so I

rotfl

1999-08-03 Thread Hartmut Koptein
Hi, have a look at: http://www.ibrator.com -- Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Hartmut Koptein EMail: Friedrich-van-Senden-Str. 7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26603 Aurich Tel.: +49-4941-10390 PGP-Key Fingerprint = 6C E5 A0

Re: util-linux and hwclock

1999-08-03 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote: The util-linux pkg provides hwclock which doesn't work on PPC. Should this be removed? I can remove it from the package for the powerpc arch., but I'd rather appreciate if someone could send me the patch that would make hwclock work on

Re: util-linux and hwclock

1999-08-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: Other powerpc types use the 'adb' clock, the clock binary is in the powerpc-utils package (/sbin/clock). PowerMac uses adb. AFAIK APUS uses the same ioctls as the m68k port, so I think hwclock supports that. Why doesn't it work here then? Anything I might be

pam-apps su works, but...

1999-08-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
I am glad to report that with the latest pam-apps, su works for me both in console and xterms. The problem is that when I e.g. su to root and then want to suspend, it hangs. Pretty annoying, as I have got used to work like that. Anyone knows what's the problem? Michel -- I'm so hungry, I

Re: util-linux and hwclock

1999-08-03 Thread Matt Porter
Not on Motorola PReP machines, does this mean it works on IBM's? On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: Nope. It does work on some PPCs - PReP machines, for instance. Just not on powermacs. On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 01:52:58PM -0600, Jason E. Stewart wrote: Hey, The util-linux

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Matt Porter
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Cort Dougan wrote: If you think it's hard finding a price then try to actually purchase one. Once you get a salesperson to admit they exist getting them to sell you one is a good fight :) } Out of curiousity, what is

Re: util-linux and hwclock

1999-08-03 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Matt Porter wrote: Not on Motorola PReP machines, does this mean it works on IBM's? Don't these boards have a PC style RTC? Make sure to enable CONFIG_RTC. On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: Nope. It does work on some PPCs - PReP machines, for instance. Just

Re: util-linux and hwclock

1999-08-03 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Michel Dänzer wrote: Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: Other powerpc types use the 'adb' clock, the clock binary is in the powerpc-utils package (/sbin/clock). PowerMac uses adb. AFAIK APUS uses the same ioctls as the m68k port, so I think hwclock supports that. Why

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Matt Porter
On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Phillip R. Jaenke wrote: Cort Dougan wrote: If you think it's hard finding a price then try to actually purchase one. Once you get a salesperson to admit they exist getting them to sell you one is a good fight :) } Out of curiousity, what is the general price

Re: util-linux and hwclock

1999-08-03 Thread Matt Porter
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Matt Porter wrote: Not on Motorola PReP machines, does this mean it works on IBM's? Don't these boards have a PC style RTC? Make sure to enable CONFIG_RTC. Need new support, these are MK48T59/559 parts. I'm not saying it

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 10:10:31AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: IBM never intended to manufacture the LongTrail. They just did the design. Manufacturing was supposed to be done by UMAX and Tatung. And they didn't believe in Linux when Steve killed the Mac clones. Hrm. Tatung is probably

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Alexander S. Guy
Phillip == Phillip R Jaenke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phillip Maybe we should all band together, chip in, and start our Phillip own company selling PowerPC machines. ;) You say that in jest, but that's not such a bad idea. Considering that the boards that are desired are OEM, and the

About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Leandro Dutra
They are, unfortunately. And I wouldn't bother with Penguin Computing. IIRC, they were the company that thinks WinModems that work with Linux are a really great idea. }:P It is a great idea, but not for Penguin's target market of high reliability. It would be great for things like

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Phillip R. Jaenke
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 11:49:25AM -0700, Alexander S. Guy wrote: You say that in jest, but that's not such a bad idea. Considering that the boards that are desired are OEM, and the specs are freely available. It might be better to start a group, where a number of parties put money

Debian PowerPC/Joys Woes

1999-08-03 Thread C.M. Connelly
Hi, First, some good news. We have Debian GNU/Linux running on our PowerCenter 132, with X, GNOME, MH, sendmail, etc. all installed. It's great to be running Linux on this system -- when things work, the machine is way faster than it ever was under MacOS, and it's especially wonderful to be able

Re: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Tom Rini
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Phillip R. Jaenke wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 01:10:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I think VA is partially owned by Intel. They are, unfortunately. And I wouldn't bother with Penguin Computing. IIRC, they were the company that thinks WinModems

RES: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Leandro Dutra
petitions/I would order X machines type things), it might be possible to get VA interested.. Other companies interesting to ask for our machines would be the ones with Debian experience. I remember VA once sold Debian machines, don't know now. There are also that laptop folks who

Re: Debian PowerPC/Joys Woes

1999-08-03 Thread Alexander S. Guy
C == C M Connelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C Hi, C First, some good news. We have Debian GNU/Linux running on our C PowerCenter 132, with X, GNOME, MH, sendmail, etc. all C installed. It's great to be running Linux on this system -- That's awesome. I got Debian up on my BW

Re: About PowerPC board production run

1999-08-03 Thread Jeramy B Smith
This is all well and great but bad from a business standpoint.First, sell iMacs preloaded with Linux to raise capital. Market them for Linux hobbyists interested in alternative architectures. Same for Powerbooks. Call them iMax and PenguinBooks. Order units as you get orders. Buy direct and sell

Apple vs. IBM

1999-08-03 Thread Jeramy B Smith
In light of the recent board discussion, I decided to price some full PowerPC systems. Check it out at www.corplinux.com/powerpenguin if your interested. Cheers. Jeramy B Smith BS AAS MCSE MCP+I CLC - www.corplinux.com PowerPenguin - www.corplinux.com/powerpenguin

Re: RES: About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Illuminatus Primus
I was told by a VA rep that they were considering supporting Debian again. Reportedly, internally they are mostly Debian :). +[ On Tue, Aug 03, at 06:10PM(-0300), Leandro Dutra wrote: ]-- | petitions/I would order X machines type things), it might | be possible to | get VA

About PowerPC processors

1999-08-03 Thread Leandro Dutra
I was told by a VA rep that they were considering supporting Debian again. Reportedly, internally they are mostly Debian :). It seems that many people who want to get real work done are going for Debian... we should sell ourselves better. Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs

Apple vs. IBM

1999-08-03 Thread Leandro Dutra
In light of the recent board discussion, I decided to price some full PowerPC systems. Check it out at http://www.corplinux.com/powerpenguin if your interested. Your link at IBM is broken, since it was for your personal shopping cart only. But are you considering different