Damn shopping cart, I tried the link on another computer and it actually
worked. I took away the atrocious links and just posted the nitty-gritty
details.
Your link at IBM is broken, since it was for your personal shopping
cart only.
But are you considering different memory architectures,
The claims about IBM there aren't too accurate. They're not so out of
touch. Look who they're selling rs6k's to. Big companies that want _full_
support 24/7 with AIX. They're willing to pay a lot for the support they
get from IBM.
For Linux, that's way off base but they only recently turned
Debian on PPC is almost unheard of. Being more public would be good :)
} It seems that many people who want to get real work done are going
} for Debian... we should sell ourselves better.
I've tried the kernels from the kernel packages for 2.2.1 and 2.2.9 and
tried compiling my own 2.2.9 and 2.2.10 kernels to boot a Umax APUS
powerpc clone, to no avail. The only kernel it wants to run is the 2.1.24
kernel on Paul McKerras's ancient installer disk.
Either quik or OF fails with the
At 18:22 -0500 1999-08-03, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
you only get PCI. The Apple has a True66mhz PCI which can be used for SCSI
or graphics depending on whether your running in workstation or server
configuration as well as the standard 33hz slots intel uses. Both systems
use 32bit PCI slots.
3. Sun Ultra5 machines (which start at $2400) outsell 43P150
machines by a
large margin.
All right, but last time I searched Ultra5 was an IDE, limited
upgrade machine... 256 colors only!
not workstations. If service and support are so expensive,
they should be
made an option
We try :)
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 05:27:59PM -0600, Cort Dougan wrote:
Debian on PPC is almost unheard of. Being more public would be good :)
} It seems that many people who want to get real work done are going
} for Debian... we should sell ourselves better.
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To UNSUBSCRIBE,
I have to say, as someone who makes almost 90% of my money off AIX and Big Blue,
that while the same types of questions have always bugged me--why are Macs
cheaper when you get more? Why is IBM so out of touch with the 43P?--I have to
give credit where it is due to IBM. The fact of the matter is
You can PCI cards to it. IDE is fine for workstations. Add a PCI scsi card.
Even with a scsi card or ATI video card, it is still a good deal for 360mhz
ultrasparc workstation. We use them for firwalls and small servers.
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From: Leandro Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
- Original Message -
From: Joel Klecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's not quite correct, the Blue White PowerMac G3 has one
32-bit/66MHz PCI slot, and 3 64-bit/33MHz PCI slots.
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Even better. I wish they had a 64-bit 66mhz slot though. Gigabit ethernet
could really use that kind of
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
Debian on PPC is almost unheard of. Being more public would be good :)
How can i/we do this? Working fulltime on this for nothing isn't always funny.
No, no it isn't.
Debian is sometimes slow, but we do it right(TM) :-)
As long as fixes get
Previously Illuminatus Primus wrote:
I was told by a VA rep that they were considering supporting Debian
again. Reportedly, internally they are mostly Debian :).
They sell Debian boxes on request I think and are considering make it a
standard option.
Wichert.
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That is,
assuming USB is working in the PowerPC under Linux or shortly will be.
USB works alright, just in very limited amounts. As far as I am informed the
current version of the USB interface that most of the market goes by is 1.16 ...
however, as far as I know, the current kernel or the
Had to happen
-CC
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 04:39:33PM -0500, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
In light of the recent board discussion, I decided to price some full
PowerPC systems. Check it out at www.corplinux.com/powerpenguin if your
interested.
Alternately, one of my preferred vendors for my home RS/6000's is a
company
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 05:19:33PM -0600, Cort Dougan wrote:
IBM Microelectronics doesn't plan on making longtrails again but they're
looking for someone who will so they can donate or loan the design.
They're quite happy to do that.
I picked up the schematics and layout from the ftp someone
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 06:22:57PM -0500, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
But are you considering different memory architectures, buses and
video cards? AFAIK these factor much more into the equipment prices than
clock speed or memory amount.
With the G3, you get Firewire, USB, and multiple PCI
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 04:26:49PM -0500, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
This is all well and great but bad from a business standpoint.First, sell
iMacs preloaded with Linux to raise capital. Market them for Linux hobbyists
interested in alternative architectures. Same for Powerbooks. Call them iMax
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 06:51:00PM -0500, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
The claims about IBM there aren't too accurate. They're not so out of
touch. Look who they're selling rs6k's to. Big companies that want
_full_
support 24/7 with AIX. They're willing to pay a lot for the support they
get
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Martin Keegan wrote:
I've tried the kernels from the kernel packages for 2.2.1 and 2.2.9 and
tried compiling my own 2.2.9 and 2.2.10 kernels to boot a Umax APUS
powerpc clone, to no avail. The only kernel it wants to run is the 2.1.24
kernel on Paul McKerras's ancient
Phillip R. Jaenke wrote:
This is wrong wrong wrong. First off, the *truly* blatant error. IBM does NOT
use SDRAM in the RS/6000. Period. Flat out WRONG and INCORRECT. They use ECC,
which is about 3x as much as SDRAM anyways.
http://www.rs6000.ibm.com/hardware/workgroups/43p_150_specs.html
says
Phillip == Phillip R Jaenke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is kinda off topic, but no more than has been discussed so far,..
if anyone wants us to shut up, just holler...
Phillip Never trust information to the uninitiated.
Phillip This is wrong wrong wrong. First off, the *truly*
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Alexander S. Guy wrote:
Phillip == Phillip R Jaenke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Phillip G3 has 'True66MHz' PCI, which doesn't exist as far as I'm
Phillip concerned, with the G3, due to the way the G3 was
Phillip designed and implemented. Power260 has 66MHz
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Alexander S. Guy wrote:
C or two error messages to hundreds), Window Maker (touching the
C clip is a sure way of crashing the window server), sound, and
C so on. Perl is still hit and miss, as well -- some modules and
The latest Window Maker out of Potato has
My article was meant to be provocative and certainly was. Of course, aside
from the pricing facts, everything was IMHO. Let's find a common ground
here. I think everyone can agree that buying PowerPC equipment for running
Linux directly from IBM is not cost effective.
As far as being out of touch
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