Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 06:37:27PM +1000, Ross Vumbaca wrote: Hi, Sven Luther wrote: Bah, that means that the A1 people will again do their own hack for debian support probably. Ah well, i don't really care. There is no A1 people. There is just myself, Ken, and Turbo who own

Re: how do I get a Sid package on a Woody system?

2004-08-02 Thread Ole-Egil Hvitmyren
Dean Hamstead wrote: i would just upgrade your whole system to unstable its not actually unstable, just not ridiculously conservatively stable I still think we need to find better names for them. stable sounds like is not crashing, which means unstable sounds like is crashing. I think what

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Ross Vumbaca
Hi, Sven Luther wrote: So, please avoid the errors of your forgoers, and contribute those changes back to debian, even if it really is too late for sarge. I did, if you take a look at the debian-bf list, a short while after I produced the patches for the Woody installer (last year). But no

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Ross Vumbaca
Hi, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: There's a number of stuff that I'm not sure about... Remember that the A1 version of 2.4.22 is based on 2.4.22-ben1 or -ben2. That was 2.4.21-benh not 2.4.22. 2.4.22 they supposedly based off a stock kernel, but I kinda doubt that too (no idea what they based

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Ross Vumbaca
Hi, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Finally, i will be releasing a 2.4.26 powerpc kernel package next week, so please provide a diff against this one (kernel-source + powerpc patch). Fair enough. I'll do 2.4.25 packages localy to test the kernel with, and when you release 2.4.26 I'll 'port'

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 07:01:43PM +1000, Ross Vumbaca wrote: Hi, Sven Luther wrote: So, please avoid the errors of your forgoers, and contribute those changes back to debian, even if it really is too late for sarge. I did, if you take a look at the debian-bf list, a short while after I

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 11:03:32AM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Quoting Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The 'linux-kernel-di-powerpc' package from the 'debian installer' will depend on this (and the 'kernel-{image,modules}-2.4.25-amigaone' packages which will in turn be built using

Re: PPC subarches

2004-08-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 09:42:18AM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: I'm trying to understand the PPC architecture. What are all those subarchitectures (pmac, chrp, chrp-rs6k and prep) and why are they special? Why do they warrant their own kernel? They don't. They just use a different boot

Re: /var/lock/console/$USER broken for shutdown (GNOME)?

2004-08-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 10:03 +0200, Robert Staudinger wrote: since upgrading my iBook running unstable last week the touch /var/lock/console/$USER hack to allow shutdown/reboot for ordinary users in a GNOME session seems to be broken. Is there a way to get it working again? gnome-session

Re: how do I get a Sid package on a Woody system?

2004-08-02 Thread Jesus Climent
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:00:49AM +0200, Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote: Dean Hamstead wrote: Everything I _use_ is running sid. The only machines running something else are two PRePs, one with Woody and one with Sarge, and those are only kept around because I used to backport packages from sid

Re: 802.11

2004-08-02 Thread Sebastian Henschel
the last one seems to have been swollowed by something... - Forwarded message from Sebastian Henschel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 17:39:33 +0200 From: Sebastian Henschel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 802.11 X-Operating-System: Debian

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: } On Sunday 01 August 2004 07:13 pm, Gregory Seidman wrote: } eat if Debian chose to begin supporting } } I can't see Debian supporting MacOS X directly, since I believe there is } some bad blood between Apple and Debian. Darwin,

Re: how do I get a Sid package on a Woody system?

2004-08-02 Thread Jesus Climent
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 01:23:13PM +0200, Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote: Yep, but I have spare hardware lying around ;-) And my address, for you to send pieces of the spare hardware, is... ;) -- Jesus Climent info:www.pumuki.org Unix SysAdm|Linux User

PPCBug or OpenFirmware

2004-08-02 Thread Volodymyr_Podosinov-contractor
Hi, Does anyone still has an OpenFirmware or a latest PPCBug for Motorola PReP Platform machines? I think you can download the newest PPC Bug from Motorola FTP server, but I don't know how to install it. Thanks

Re: Installing Sarge

2004-08-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 02:17:34PM -0700, Derek Enz wrote: Downloaded and installed the minimal sarge ppc iso, the update for Aug 1. Exactly which URL did you use? What does 'isoinfo -lR -i whatever.iso | grep partman-newworld' say on the image you downloaded? This time it seems to

Re: need help with debian in my iMac DV+

2004-08-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qui, 2004-07-29 às 20:10, Michel Dänzer escreveu: If it's using AGP GART, try disabling that, either by preventing the agpgart kernel module from loading or with Option ForcePCIMode. I had tried both without success... If that's not it, we'd have to see the log file indeed. So, there it

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Ross Vumbaca
Hi, Sven Luther wrote: Yeah, but what about the debian packages ? And you could have asked for help to clean it up, couldn't you ? What Debian packages? ;) I worked on this with others in late 2002, early 2003. At that time, there were other people working on this, so it was assumed it

Re: need help with debian in my iMac DV+

2004-08-02 Thread Dean Hamstead
change from default display depth 16 to 24 16 didnt work for me, but 24 worked fine. Dean Daniel Ruoso wrote: Em Qui, 2004-07-29 às 20:10, Michel Dänzer escreveu: If it's using AGP GART, try disabling that, either by preventing the agpgart kernel module from loading or with Option

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 07:07:14PM +1000, Ross Vumbaca wrote: if you want a working floppy drive. The PPC version of floppy.h seemed to be rather Apple specific, and dumped all the necessary stuff to use PC floppy controllers without DMA (there is a problem using the ISA DMA with the floppy

Re: need help with debian in my iMac DV+

2004-08-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Seg, 2004-08-02 às 11:24, Dean Hamstead escreveu: change from default display depth 16 to 24 16 didnt work for me, but 24 worked fine. Yes it did, but it disabled the DRI. I know it only works in 16bpp already...

Re: initial XF86Config

2004-08-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qua, 2004-07-28 às 16:45, Rick Thomas escreveu: Mouse button emulation! There's a thought... Actually, all I did is to enable mouse button emulation in kernel and then set a few variables (which I don't remember right now) in /etc/sysctl.conf

Re: initial XF86Config

2004-08-02 Thread Simon Vallet
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:01:39 -0300 Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em Qua, 2004-07-28 às 16:45, Rick Thomas escreveu: Mouse button emulation! There's a thought... Actually, all I did is to enable mouse button emulation in kernel and then set a few variables (which I don't remember

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Scott Henson
Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: I wouldn't be quite automatic. Among other things, I would want Debian-managed software to be outside the main tree (i.e. in /usr/local or, better, in /sw or the like). I also wouldn't

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:21:59AM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: } Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: } } On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: } I wouldn't be quite automatic. Among other things, I would want } Debian-managed software to be outside the main tree

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: } On Sunday 01 August 2004 07:13 pm, Gregory Seidman wrote: } eat if Debian chose to begin supporting } } I can't see Debian supporting MacOS X directly, since I believe there is }

Re: PPC subarches

2004-08-02 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Ross Vumbaca writes: Is the AmigaONE a subarch, or it's own flavor? Please remind me, what processor does the thing have and how do you boot it? Thanks for the info. To answer the original question: In the current packaging scheme of the Debian kernels, flavours roughly correspond to

Re: PPC subarches

2004-08-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 02:45:34PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Ross Vumbaca writes: Is the AmigaONE a subarch, or it's own flavor? Please remind me, what processor does the thing have and how do you boot it? Thanks for the info. To answer the original question: In the

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Scott Henson
Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:21:59AM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: } Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: } } On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:59:07PM +, Alexander Solla wrote: } I wouldn't be quite automatic. Among other things, I would want }

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: MacOS are mutually exclusive. Check out the --root options to dpkg. I would think once one has Debian on Darwin one could easily port use the same binaries on MacOS and even use debootstrap to build the initial Debian install inside of /sw or wherever

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Scott Henson
Geert Uytterhoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: MacOS are mutually exclusive. Check out the --root options to dpkg. I would think once one has Debian on Darwin one could easily port use the same binaries on MacOS and even use debootstrap to build the

Re: PPC subarches

2004-08-02 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: Err, ... i think they need a new uboot flavour. Definitely. I don't think the AmigaOne folk need to worry about power4, they only have a 7450 or something such as G4 processor, there is no way they can currently use a PPC970 (aka G5) on their Mai northbridge. Oops,

Display blanks when idle -- original ibook

2004-08-02 Thread Xaque
Hi, I am trying to build a digital picture frame out of an original ibook, using debian stable for the os. Almost everything works fine but the display will turn black after about 20 minutes of idle time (the computer does not go to sleep). Pressing the keyboard will turn the display back

Re: Color name not defined?

2004-08-02 Thread Florentin Picioroaga
Hi, Somewhere in your X resource files (e.g. .Xdefaults) you have set for XTerm the color black, but it has a space after. It looks like this: black . You should remove the space. I also had this problem :). Florentin -- Florentin Picioroaga University of Karlsruhe Dept. of Computer

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Ross Vumbaca [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sven Luther wrote: So, please avoid the errors of your forgoers, and contribute those changes back to debian, even if it really is too late for sarge. I did, if you take a look at the debian-bf list, a short while after I produced the patches for

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What Debian packages? ;) The debian kernel packages. There was/is no kernel packages! There's only a kernel and a root image: majorskan:/mnt/chroots/ppc-a1/image# find -type f ./boot/boot.cat ./boot/boot.img

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: Geert Uytterhoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: MacOS are mutually exclusive. Check out the --root options to dpkg. I would think once one has Debian on Darwin one could easily port use the same binaries on

Re: Display blanks when idle -- original ibook

2004-08-02 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Xaque wrote: I am trying to build a digital picture frame out of an original ibook, using debian stable for the os. Almost everything works fine but the display will turn black after about 20 minutes of idle time (the computer does not go to sleep). Pressing the

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Naturaly this is a semi-official Debian GNU/Linux effort! EVERYTHING will end up in 'official distribution'. That's the whole point. Yeah, but you suffer from the let's make it perfect before we merge it in syndrom. True enough. Maybe that's a

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 09:31:42PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Quoting Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What Debian packages? ;) The debian kernel packages. There was/is no kernel packages! There's only a kernel and a root image: Well, there should be.

Re: AmigaONE Debian (unstable?)

2004-08-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 09:24:34PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Quoting Ross Vumbaca [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sven Luther wrote: Bah, that means that the A1 people will again do their own hack for debian support probably. Ah well, i don't really care. There will be NO 'debian only

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread Scott Henson
Geert Uytterhoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Scott Henson wrote: There is of course the problem of packages possibly not knowing about the --root switch and they would still look for their conf files under /etc, but that may also be a bug and there may be some way of

We look forward Confirmation

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Re: /var/lock/console/$USER broken for shutdown (GNOME)?

2004-08-02 Thread Robert Staudinger
Right, my bad. I had gdm on hold since the infamous /usr/share/xsessions/ change. Now gnome-session and gdm get along well again ... Thanks, Rob Am Mon, den 02.08.2004 schrieb Michel Dänzer um 12:34: On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 10:03 +0200, Robert Staudinger wrote: since upgrading my iBook

Re: Debian Within a Darwin System

2004-08-02 Thread David Schleef
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 02:01:43PM -0400, Scott Henson wrote: Geert Uytterhoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You really need to prefix these at build time. No I don't think you need a prefix. gromit:~$ grep -l '/usr' /usr/bin/*|wc -l 1055 gromit:~$ How do those get fixed-up? Defining

monitor geometry

2004-08-02 Thread Justin Hale
I have an 500 blue and white slot loading iMac and I just successfully installed xwindows with the programmer's package of woddy. But all is not well, for even on the telly terminals my screen is shifted to the left ( I can't see three - two letters ). As we all know macintosh decided to keep