Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-26 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 27.05.23 04:52, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 02:14:16PM +0200, Frank Scheiner wrote: As per `grub-install(8)`: ``` grub-install copies GRUB images into boot/grub. ``` As the call to `grub-install` is performed by `chroot` inside the root FS of the new installation, I

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-26 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hello again, On 26.05.23 13:44, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! On Fri, 2023-05-26 at 13:07 +0200, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 24.05.23 15:25, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: == Installing on a FAT

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-26 Thread Frank Scheiner
/frank-scheiner-guest/grub-installer/-/commit/cfe145228adaa34aae780cbb527dce5408107083#ae6e84c2dbfeefe14b039001e1b64254dada292b_895_899 Cheers, Frank

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-10 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hallo, On 10.05.23 11:36, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Does your approach include a blessing tool? Not that I know of. The grub image (a copy of GRUB's `core.elf`) in the root of the OF bootstrap partition is configured in the OF environment var `boot-device`. OF therefore knows what file

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-10 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Adrian, On 10.05.23 10:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: [...] If we could get Apple PowerMac machines to boot from a FAT filesystem, the licensing issue with hfsprogs would no longer be a headache. According to Apple's documentation, booting from a FAT boot partition should work [4]

Re: Failed: grub-install --target=powerpc-ieee1275

2022-11-24 Thread Frank Scheiner
You're welcome! :-) On 24.11.22 22:22, Peter wrote: Hi Frank, That fixed it, thanks! Peter On Thu, 2022-11-24 at 00:31 +0100, Frank Scheiner wrote: Hi Peter, On 24.11.22 00:18, Peter wrote: I seem to have a problem with grub being read-only after sudo apt update & apt upgrade on my i

Re: Failed: grub-install --target=powerpc-ieee1275

2022-11-23 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Peter, On 24.11.22 00:18, Peter wrote: I seem to have a problem with grub being read-only after sudo apt update & apt upgrade on my iBook G4: You need to fsck (and possibly repair) the HFS partition GRUB is located on - use `fsck.hfs` from "hfsprogs" package (see [1] for details). When

Re: hfsprogs depends on libssl1.1 which is obsolete

2022-05-26 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 26.05.22 07:50, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2022, at 9:56 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! On 5/26/22 00:46, Rick Thomas wrote: The package libssl1.1 seems to have been removed from the powerpc/ppc64 archives. Yes, there is a transition going on towards OpenSSL 3.0.

Re: Off-Topic: G5 Open Firmware instability

2022-05-13 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Tony, On 13.05.22 01:11, to...@suse.de wrote: [...] Overheating is common and I'm aware of the process to try to fix it but my concern is that the machine has also become totally unstable in Open Firmware (OF). Have you already looked below the cover of the cooling system? Is there any

Re: systemd being pulled in during dist-upgrade

2022-02-21 Thread Frank Scheiner
Small update... On 21.02.22 10:22, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 20.02.22 23:37, Stan Johnson wrote: So there must have been a change in fwupd somewhere between version 1.7.4-1 and 1.7.5-3 that causes it to now require systemd. Please let me know where I should report the issue. [1] lists two

Re: systemd being pulled in during dist-upgrade

2022-02-21 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Stan, Rick, spotted this by chance. On 20.02.22 23:37, Stan Johnson wrote: And now: # dpkg --list | grep -w fwupd ii fwupd 1.7.5-3powerpcFirmware update daemon So there must have been a change in fwupd somewhere between version 1.7.4-1 and 1.7.5-3 that causes it to now require

Re: Good news - Fwd: hfsprogs_540.1.linux3-5_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable, unstable

2021-10-14 Thread Frank Scheiner
Congratulations, Adrian! That is a huge step forward. Cheers, Frank On 14.10.21 10:03, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! Good news everyone! The hfsprogs package which has support for debian-installer has now been accepted into unstable \o/. That means, I can finally continue working

Re: Problems with hfsprogs on G5 Power Macs (ppc64)

2020-11-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi again, On 01.11.20 20:07, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I just uploaded a new upstream release, version 540.1. Please check whether this version fixes the problem for you. Looks like the new version indeed fixes the problem! Great! :-) I was "lucky" and found my HFS partition "dirty"

Re: Problems with hfsprogs on G5 Power Macs (ppc64)

2020-11-03 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Adrian, On 01.11.20 20:07, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I just uploaded a new upstream release, version 540.1. Great! Please check whether this version fixes the problem for you. I will do. I just don't know, how to break my HFS partition, so `fsck.hfs` has something to fix. But

Re: Installing Jessie on PowerMac G4 (32 bit) -- expired key

2020-06-23 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 23.06.20 10:58, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 23.06.20 09:56, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] A signature applied during a valid key period is still good. For those following a key rotation scheme, no new signatures should occur after the key expires. I agree. I have a related issue in my

Re: Installing Jessie on PowerMac G4 (32 bit) -- expired key

2020-06-23 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 23.06.20 09:56, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] A signature applied during a valid key period is still good. For those following a key rotation scheme, no new signatures should occur after the key expires. I agree. I have a related issue in my Thunderbird MUA. It keeps stating that, the -

Re: R: DOSBox PowerPC JIT patch

2020-06-22 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 21.06.20 19:14, luigi burdo wrote: [...] This is the aros running on VirtualPC on G5 Quad https://youtu.be/uGGMOsTqh70 Wow, nice choice of music. Reminds me of how much fun I had with Gods on my Amiga 500 - The Bitmap Brothers were a cool team of developers and their games were among the

Re: ofpath vs ofpathname vs grub-ofpathname

2020-04-19 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 19.04.20 10:36, Rick Thomas wrote: OK On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: You need to use the `ofpathname` from the `mac-support` branch mentioned on [2]. You can either download it directly from [3] or `git clone https://github.com/glaubitz/powerpc-utils.git` and do

Re: debian netinst 2020-04-18 claims No space left on device

2020-04-19 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 19.04.20 10:21, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/19/20 10:06 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Although I'm really wondering if we just can't format and mount the HFS partiton with partman without having to resort to the hfs bootstrap script you created for debian-installer.

Re: debian netinst 2020-04-18 claims No space left on device

2020-04-19 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 19.04.20 09:15, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: Le dim. 19 avr. 2020 08:45, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz mailto:glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de>> a écrit : On 4/19/20 8:39 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > It might just be that we will have to increase the size of the HFS boot >

Re: ofpath vs ofpathname vs grub-ofpathname

2020-04-19 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Rick, nice to hear from you! On 19.04.20 00:10, Rick Thomas wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, at 1:58 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: You should test with ofpathname as well. OK, I will. Is there an updated version of ofpathname I should be using? If so how do I get it? Check [1]

Re: ofpath vs ofpathname vs grub-ofpathname

2020-04-16 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Adrian, On 16.04.20 21:25, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Frank! On 4/16/20 8:49 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Alternatively, can someone run the ofpathname command from the powerpc-utils package on different physical disks, e.g. sda1 and sdb1 and do the same with the ofpath command

Re: ofpath vs ofpathname vs grub-ofpathname

2020-04-16 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Adrian, On 16.04.20 17:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I have finally found some time to work on this issue again. Nice! First things first, I have reviewed the messages in this thread and compared it with the source code and the knowledge about the hardware I have. I have

Re: ofpath vs ofpathname vs grub-ofpathname

2020-04-16 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi guys, On 16.04.20 20:38, Romain Dolbeau wrote: First, the mystery was solved by the almighty command 'ls', turns out it's not exactly a patch: dolbeau@powermacg5:~$ ls -l /usr/sbin/ofpath* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24392 Apr 14 2019 /usr/sbin/ofpath lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root16 Jan 26 10:49

Re: Failed install attempt - GRUB issue - hfsprogs missing?

2019-07-04 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Riccardo, On 7/4/19 20:36, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Up to know, I followed you step after step. Now that everything is prepared you can use `grub-install` to install GRUB onto the HFS bootstrap partition (taken and adapted from [2]): ``` grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub ```

Re: ofpath vs ofpathname vs grub-ofpathname

2019-07-02 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 6/20/19 22:45, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Frank! On 6/20/19 9:04 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Combining the information from [1] and [2] for my 11,2 type G5 the following OF paths are returned: ``` root@powermac-g5:~# ofpathname /dev/sda2 /ht@0,f200/pci@9/k2-sata-root@c/scsi@0/sd

Re: Failed install attempt - GRUB issue - hfsprogs missing?

2019-07-02 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 7/2/19 16:40, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 7/2/19 4:32 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: There's no UDEB for hfsprogs which would allow handling HFS from the installer environment so we need to resort to using the tools from the hfsprogs DEB package from inside the target root FS during

Re: Failed install attempt - GRUB issue - hfsprogs missing?

2019-07-02 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Riccardo, sorry for being so late, but I was occupied by other things the last weeks. On 6/26/19 20:22, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 6/25/19 11:50 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: in the meanwhile I did not stand still, but I tried: 1) boot with rescue CD

Re: ofpath vs ofpathname vs grub-ofpathname

2019-06-20 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Adrian, On 6/20/19 15:47, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi! In order to collect data for fixing the limitations we have with grub-ofpathname, I have done some initial testing on our POWER8 buildd by comparing the output of Yaboot's ofpath [1], ofpathname from powerpc-utils [2] and

Re: apt-get update and upgrade results in unbootable G5

2019-06-20 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Dennis, during the package upgrade of GRUB, `grub-install` uses `ofpathname` to determine the OF path of the device that holds the GRUB files needed for booting and uses `nvsetenv` to write it to the NVRAM. Unfortunately `ofpathname` doesn't return a working OF path on Power Macs. To fix that

Re: Curious why the PowerMac G5 quad needs a monitor to boot

2019-05-09 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/9/19 08:00, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 5/8/19 7:20 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Not for the 11,2 type G5s. AFAIK there never was an adapter available that would allow access to the - existing - serial console port(s). You can always plug in a USB-RS232 converter and pass "co

Re: Curious why the PowerMac G5 quad needs a monitor to boot

2019-05-08 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/8/19 13:30, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 5/8/19 1:25 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Sounds too much like work for an annoying little thing. I will connect a KVM to it perhaps and that may solve it without knowing why it happens.  As for a serial port or serial console, in my dreams. There

Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2019-05-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 12:08, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On May 5, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: What do you recommend instead? The original file was 365KB. The compressed file was 48KB. Remove the irrelevant parts. But 365 kB isn’t too much anyway. What's the (exact) size limit then

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 16:35, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 05/05/2019 15:02, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 5/5/19 14:47, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 05/05/2019 13:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I think the bootinfo.txt is for IBM CHRP machines while the BootX is for Macs. Ah no, that's not correct

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 14:47, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 05/05/2019 13:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On May 5, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: Presumably for the test ISO image you were manually copying /System/Library/CoreServices/* into the image yourself? Hopefully with the above

Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2019-05-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Rick, On 5/5/19 09:06, Rick Thomas wrote: On May 4, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Mail Delivery System wrote: : host bendel.debian.org[82.195.75.100] said: 550 5.7.1 No attachments allowed (in reply to end of DATA command) Reporting-MTA: dns; pb-sasl20.pobox.com Hmmm… I was trying to attach

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 08:46, Frank Scheiner wrote: @Adrian: The `hfsprogs` package was also not included in the older ISO from 2019-04-20 (I only checked the ppc64 one). Should we include it, so off-line installations work? OTOH should this even work? I.e. to install a base OS from just the netinstall ISOS

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 00:27, Karl wrote: Hope this helps https://ibb.co/hmHrvfT The installer can't find the `hfsprogs` package. I just checked the Debian Ports FTP service and it's there, both for powerpc and ppc64. So either your Internet connection was down or - if packages were installed from the

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-20

2019-05-02 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/3/19 06:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 5/3/19 12:06 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: The reason is that my `mk-hfs-bootstrap.sh` script relied on language dependent information. I didn't recognize - nor expect - that this information is language dependent until I used a different

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-20

2019-05-02 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Roberto, On 5/2/19 22:26, roberto.guardato wrote: Hi, i've tested image on powerbook g4. As on powermac g5, i could install grub if i select english as default language, with Italian boot loader installation fail. I've used the same parameters for the installation attempts. Thanks for

Re: Debootstrap Error : Couldn't find these debs: debian-ports-archive-keyring-udeb

2019-05-02 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/2/19 11:15, Dennis Clarke wrote: Well you're doing great things.  Wish I could test sparc as I have plenty of that laying around. Even newer stuff just laying around. What's holding you back? And more important (:-D): what have you available? Maybe we should adjust our lists to not test

Re: Request for a Debian CD logo - was: Re: Sorry for the noise...

2019-05-02 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/2/19 11:06, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 5/1/19 11:50 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: And last but not least, the most important impact: When started from the internal optical drive (or any other supported boot device by the Open Firmware OS Picker, i.e. holding the option key

Re: debian on eServer 9111-520

2019-05-01 Thread Frank Scheiner
Oops, forgot something, see below... On 5/1/19 17:46, Frank Scheiner wrote: In addition to that I also tested with the current kernel in the experimental suite (5.0.0-trunk-powerpc64) ...and with this one I also couldn't reproduce the hangs. So this would be another option for now

Re: debian on eServer 9111-520

2019-05-01 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Alexandre, sorry for not coming back to you earlier, but I missed the time for a more in-depth look into this matter. On 4/20/19 03:00, Alexandre Bencz wrote: Frank, what PCI cards you 9111-520 has ? I don't have additional cards in my 9111-520. In the meantime I could confirm that my

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-01 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/1/19 12:18, aggaz wrote: For what is worth, I think that a developer in need to test several CD images without burning them should consider investing in a FireWire HD. As far as I know booting from FireWire should be much easier, but I never tried it. You don't even need a disk attached

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/30/19 21:56, Linux User #330250 wrote: Despite what others said, it should really work with every Macintosh that has the NewWorld bootrom and thus at least Open Firmware 3.0, i.e. starting with the iMac "Bondi" 1998 and the PowerBook G3 "Lombard" 1999. And, it's all already written down in

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Adrian, On 4/30/19 12:54, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! I have dug out one of my iBook G4s now so I can perform installer tests on the PowerMac target. While the machine has a built-in optical drive, I would avoid having to burn CDs for every installation test run (even when using

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-20

2019-04-29 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi, On 4/27/19 23:39, roberto.guardato wrote: Hi, here are results of some tests carried out on the same hardware as above: i was able to complete the installation by selecting always proposed options. If i change the system language to italian is not possible to complete installation of the

Re: Switching debian-installer CD images to GRUB

2019-04-28 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi again, On 4/28/19 21:56, Frank Scheiner wrote: Other question: Does anybody know if NewWorld Power Macs could maybe also boot from HFS+ instead of HFS or FAT(16)? Probably answering my second question: I just checked the OF on my 11,2 type Power Mac G5 and it - in addition to `fat-files

Re: Switching debian-installer CD images to GRUB

2019-04-28 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi, On 4/28/19 21:49, Thomas Schmitt wrote: One could do it with HFS like Fedora ISO does with HFS+. A small HFS+ filesystem image is marked in APM as Apple_HFS. In the ISO it has the name /images/macboot.img. Is that the same method as what `mkfs.hfs` can do with option: ``` -w Adds an

Re: G5 Suddenly Can't Boot Into GRUB

2019-04-28 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/28/19 18:08, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi! On 4/25/19 9:20 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: Best would be, of course, to fix the ofpathname from the IBM utils package. Could you give more details as to why you believe this would be 'best' ? While I never had feedback from neither IBM

Re: Trying 2019-04-11 on PowerMac G4 Silver - [Solved]

2019-04-26 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/14/19 20:54, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 4/14/19 20:28, Rick Thomas wrote: On Apr 13, 2019, at 5:39 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Do you happen to have a smaller disk (e.g. below 128 GB) available for use? Or maybe you try with a separate small (512 MiB or so) `/boot` partition directly after

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-20

2019-04-26 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Roberto, On 4/26/19 17:33, roberto.guardato wrote: Hi Adrian, i tried https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-20/debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso on Mid-2004 - M9457LL/A - PowerMac7,3 - A1047 - 1969C. installation media is on CF card using a CF to Ide adapter, boot pressing 'c' key

Re: G5 Suddenly Can't Boot Into GRUB

2019-04-17 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/18/19 00:26, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 4/18/19 12:06 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: >>> My guess is an update broke something, because I don't remember >>> successfully rebooting after that, but I'm not sure. >> >> Sad to hear that. Doesn't `boot hd:

Re: G5 Suddenly Can't Boot Into GRUB

2019-04-17 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Noah, On 4/16/19 19:50, Noah Wolfe wrote: > Hey all, it is I again. > > GRUB initially installed fine, and this G5 even booted off it several times, > but I believe after an update to grub-ieee1275 installed, I can't boot back > in. The boot selector does not display an HD with a penguin as

Re: Testing Debian install in AQUEMU

2019-04-17 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi David, On 4/15/19 19:29, David VANTYGHEM wrote: > > Le 14/04/2019 à 23:35, Frank Scheiner a écrit : >> Hi David, >> >> On 4/14/19 22:55, David VANTYGHEM wrote: >>> I've got this error : >>> >>> https://framapic.org/VlzE2HdYGj1h/34Y0Cd8

Re: GRUB Error on 04-12 Images

2019-04-15 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/15/19 15:44, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/15/19 3:37 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Well, the above excerpt shows that the script tries to read an invalid path which might the result of one of the commands returning an error instead of a usable path. I haven't looked at the details yet

Re: GRUB Error on 04-12 Images

2019-04-15 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/15/19 15:27, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/15/19 3:19 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Mk-hfs-bootstrap: the HFS bootstrap partition couldn't be found. Cannot continue! Exiting. Main-menu: cat: can't open /var/lib/partman/devices/=dev=SDB/string of numbers/mountpoint: no such file

Re: GRUB Error on 04-12 Images

2019-04-15 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/15/19 10:49, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/15/19 9:26 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: although this is already solved (with [1]), I wanted to notify you, that the message I'm replying to, reached me (and possibly others) only after your last message, though it was sent earlier. I don't

Re: GRUB Error on 04-12 Images

2019-04-15 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Noah, although this is already solved (with [1]), I wanted to notify you, that the message I'm replying to, reached me (and possibly others) only after your last message, though it was sent earlier. [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2019/04/msg00144.html Looking into the message

Re: Testing Debian install in AQUEMU

2019-04-14 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi David, On 4/14/19 22:55, David VANTYGHEM wrote: I've got this error : https://framapic.org/VlzE2HdYGj1h/34Y0Cd8rQUkB.png https://framapic.org/Xo8dvME9qnMX/xPNVqm6HIrI0.png Something's wrong here. The disk device (and not a partition) is used as HFS bootstrap (partition) and formatted.

Re: Trying 2019-04-11 on PowerMac G4 Silver - [Solved]

2019-04-14 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/14/19 20:28, Rick Thomas wrote: On Apr 13, 2019, at 5:39 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Do you happen to have a smaller disk (e.g. below 128 GB) available for use? Or maybe you try with a separate small (512 MiB or so) `/boot` partition directly after the HFS bootstrap partition, so the kernel

Re: Trying 2019-04-11 on PowerMac G4 Silver

2019-04-13 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Rick, On 4/13/19 10:36, Rick Thomas wrote: I tried the 2019-04-11 debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso on a PowerMac G4 Silver (PowerMac3,4). [...] Installation of GRUB was automatic and I was not asked anything. No problems reported in this process. I also don't see any issue in the syslog

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-09

2019-04-10 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/10/19 12:44, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/10/19 12:17 PM, aggaz wrote: Grub installation failed again with: "An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Install the GRUB boot

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-09

2019-04-10 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/10/19 14:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/10/19 2:48 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: UPDATE: I tested that change with [1] in "normal" installation mode and it still complains with "permission denied". It works through though, when I make "mkhfs-bootstrap.sh&q

Re: Tests on new 2019-04-09 image on PPC64

2019-04-10 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/10/19 14:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! Thanks for the additional tests. On 4/10/19 1:45 PM, aggaz wrote: After changing the permissions of mkhfs-bootstrap.sh GRUB was properly installed. During GRUB's installation I was asked by the installer: "Force GRUB installation to

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-09

2019-04-10 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/10/19 08:50, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/10/19 4:53 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: /usr/lib/grub-installer/mkhfs-bootstrap.sh: Permission denied Frank, I suggest invoking your script with "sh -c", could you test this patch? --- grub-installer~ 2019-04-06 00:03:33.153827119 +0300

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/7/19 15:23, David VANTYGHEM wrote: Le 07/04/2019 à 13:27, David VANTYGHEM a écrit : Le 07/04/2019 à 13:26, Frank Scheiner a écrit : On 4/7/19 11:45, David VANTYGHEM wrote: Le 06/04/2019 à 23:31, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit : On 4/6/19 10:41 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote: Done: https

Re: Trying 2019-04-06 image

2019-04-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/7/19 13:47, aggaz wrote: Il 07/04/19 13:24, Frank Scheiner ha scritto: Nice, that the boot from USB stick worked for you. What type of G5 are you using "7,2", "7,3", "9,1" or "11,2"? See [1] for details about the different models. Considering t

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/7/19 11:45, David VANTYGHEM wrote: Le 06/04/2019 à 23:31, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit : On 4/6/19 10:41 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote: Done: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/ I just tested this version on Qemu and I've got this error with Grub :

Re: Trying 2019-04-06 image

2019-04-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/7/19 10:10, aggaz wrote: I tried an installation of the new image "debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso" from [1] on a PowerMac G5. The image was copied with "dd" on a usb stick and then loaded with on Open Firmware by using: boot ud:,\install\yaboot Nice, that the boot from USB stick worked

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/6/19 23:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/6/19 10:40 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Ok, looks like there's a "local" keyword used outside of a function in a partman startup(?) file: ``` Apr  6 20:22:36 partman:   No matching physical volumes found Apr  6 20:22:36 partman:   R

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
taller environment as `/usr/lib/grub-installer/mkhfs-bootstrap.sh`. Cheers, Frank [1]: https://salsa.debian.org/frank-scheiner-guest/grub-installer/raw/support-grub-installs-on-newworld-powermacs-with-hfs-bootstrap/mkhfs-bootstrap.sh

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/6/19 22:32, Dennis Clarke wrote: OKay .. I don't know what is wrong but neither expert mode or just regular "install" seems to be able to detect a disk nor run a partition tool. However the /dev/sdaX links are in place. No idea. If you're installation environment is still running, you

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/6/19 22:41, David VANTYGHEM wrote: Done: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-06/ Hello, I just tested this version on Qemu What exact ISO did you use powerpc or ppc64? ...never mind, I just recognized your other mail. So you are using the powerpc version, which could

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/6/19 22:02, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 4/6/19 21:38, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/6/19 9:31 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Frank could you please test the image yourself and report back? Sure, I'll give it a try as soon as I find the time. I would test it myself but I still haven't

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/6/19 21:38, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/6/19 9:31 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Frank could you please test the image yourself and report back? Sure, I'll give it a try as soon as I find the time. I would test it myself but I still haven't got the PowerPC machine back online

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/6/19 21:27, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/6/19 9:00 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 4/6/19 20:19, Dennis Clarke wrote: I just did a quick test here and ran into an inability to partition the internal disk. You can listen to me rambling about this at : https://www.youtube.com

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/6/19 21:00, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 4/6/19 20:19, Dennis Clarke wrote: I just did a quick test here and ran into an inability to partition the internal disk. You can listen to me rambling about this at : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQwwexSvpY0 Just skip ahead to the 3:45 time

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/6/19 20:19, Dennis Clarke wrote: I just did a quick test here and ran into an inability to partition the internal disk. You can listen to me rambling about this at : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQwwexSvpY0 Just skip ahead to the 3:45 time mark and we can see partition process is

Re: debian on eServer 9111-520

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
Small Update: On 4/6/19 14:51, Frank Scheiner wrote: I will try to check if SP operation makes a difference, if I find out how to disable MP operation, because there doesn't seem to be a SP kernel available for ppc64. Hence I'm also not 100% sure that the installer really operates in SP mode. I

Re: debian on eServer 9111-520

2019-04-06 Thread Frank Scheiner
Dear Alexandre, On 3/29/19 23:46, Alexandre Bencz wrote: Hi Frank! Thanks for the awesome explanation!! I tried, using only the DASD of position 1, but an error occurred, the system was trying to detect the other DASDs I will try with other DASDs combination and with other DASDs :) I'm using

Re: debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso from 18 May 2018

2019-04-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Dennis, On 4/5/19 22:44, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 4/5/19 4:38 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 4/5/19 10:03 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: So now I will test variations on what it says there and maybe I can pick a mirror somewhere that works. However if "buster" is hard coded into the pkg

Re: debian on eServer 9111-520

2019-03-29 Thread Frank Scheiner
r 3:0:1:0: [sr0] Aborting command: 00 [  136.849923] ipr 0001:d0:01.0: Adapter being reset as a result of error recovery. [  140.071856] ipr 0001:d0:01.0: Initializing IOA. Alexandre S. Bencz +55 {15} 997-980-511 On 29/03/2019 13:05, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 3/29/19 15:41, Alexandre Bencz

Re: debian on eServer 9111-520

2019-03-29 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 3/29/19 15:41, Alexandre Bencz wrote: Hi! It's possible to install debian on ibm 9111-520 machine, with 8 DASDs and raid controller ? Yes, I think so. I remember that it worked for me on a 9131-52A with single disk and the built-in SCSI controller. I also have a 9111-520, but don't remember

Re: [powerpc/ppc64] Fix d-i/grub-installer for NewWorld Power Macs (now with HFS bootstrap!)

2019-03-13 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 3/13/19 21:34, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:56 AM Frank Scheiner wrote: by popular demand for a working d-i/grub-installer on NewWorld Power Macs **with** HFS bootstrap method, I made this happen - again. :-D This time with a reduced footprint compared to the patches

[powerpc/ppc64] Fix d-i/grub-installer for NewWorld Power Macs (now with HFS bootstrap!)

2019-03-12 Thread Frank Scheiner
Dear all, by popular demand for a working d-i/grub-installer on NewWorld Power Macs **with** HFS bootstrap method, I made this happen - again. :-D This time with a reduced footprint compared to the patches proposed in late 2017 (see [1]). [1]:

Re: old OpenServers able to use Debian?

2019-03-12 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Stuart, On 3/12/19 20:59, IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: It is instructive that I thought I had recalled knowing they were Power5, absent any photos in that link for me to review, I think that is what they are as they are quite aged. These servers are specifically locked from being able

Re: Debian 10.0 ppc64 NETINST-1 2019/01/27 -- windfarm on PowerMac G5 7,3

2019-03-12 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Rick, sorry, a little late. On 2/10/19 01:28, Rick Thomas wrote: I just tried installing the 2019/01/27 ppc64 NETINST-1 on my Powermac G5 7,3. It booted OK and went thru the preliminaries, but about the time it got to loading the partitioner, the windfarm fans started going crazy and I

Re: old OpenServers able to use Debian?

2019-03-12 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 3/6/19 17:40, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 07:28:08AM -0500, IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: I have some P710 or P720 (they are 4U rack mount) OpenServers from a number of years ago that I believe are Power5. Is there a current (or older) version of Debian that works

Re: Testing GRUB from other distros.

2019-03-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 3/7/19 15:41, aggaz wrote: I managed to re-install openSUSE, still without success. [...] Given that the first (unsuccessful) install was done by GPT, this time I used MS-DOS. [...] This is how it looks like on fdisk: Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sdb1 *

Re: Testing GRUB from other distros.

2019-03-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 3/7/19 10:09, aggaz wrote: To be clearer, Fedora's GRUB did work too. I was able to boot the CD-image and I saw GRUB starting kernel/initrd, but this boot step failed. So, as a matter of fact, GRUB as a loader for the kernels from the CD-images always worked. I can try Fedora with the CD

Re: Testing GRUB from other distros.

2019-03-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 3/7/19 16:00, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 3/7/19 11:41 PM, aggaz wrote: Given that the first (unsuccessful) install was done by GPT, this time I used MS-DOS. I'm not sure but I don't think OpenFirmware will accept an MS-DOS partition table, so it's most likely pointless to continue

Re: Testing GRUB from other distros.

2019-03-07 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 3/7/19 08:56, aggaz wrote: As previously requested [1, 2], I did some tests regarding GRUB on PPC64 as provided by other distributions. I did my tests on a PowerMac G5 late 2005. My attempts failed miserably. Sad to hear that, but now we at least know the status. Fedora: I was unable to

Re: Installation of Debian on an iMac PowerPC

2019-02-26 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Karl, On 2/26/19 17:34, Carlos wrote: Hello Adrian, when you are talking about GRUB, are you talking about GRUB2? Are you aware of this page? http://cynic.cc/blog/posts/running_grub2_on_powerpc_macs/ I just found this page. Don’t know if this helps your development. Let me answer for

Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-28 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 1/28/19 15:34, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/28/19 3:05 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote:>> What would be the gain of implementing this? Sure, it would be possible to implement it. But for what particular reasons and why would it be required for Yaboot? I believe the current d-i/

Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-28 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 1/28/19 14:42, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/28/19 2:18 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Theoretically something similar could be created - at a different place though, i.e. before the partitioning step - to support both HFS and FAT16 bootstrap methods in the installer for NewWorld Power

Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-28 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 1/28/19 14:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/28/19 1:52 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: @Rick: I thought about something like this since Mark reported the bootstrap limits in OpenBIOS. It could in principle work similar to the switch between non-GPT and GPT capable SPARC hardware ([1

Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-28 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 1/28/19 12:45, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 1/28/19 12:34 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I realize that this may require some programming, but would it be possible to have it ask a question early on (maybe at or before the beginning of partitioning) requesting the user to choose between

Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-28 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 1/28/19 10:19, Rick Thomas wrote: When it got to trying to install grub, that failed (as expected). I chose to “continue without boot loader”. It wrapped up and ejected the CD then paused before trying to reboot. While it was paused I switched to the alt- console and did the following{2}:

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