Hey everyone.
I downloaded a few days ago the powerpc boot floppy image, to install a debian
on my ppc 7200/75.
The image I downloaded appears not to be a valid one, and someone help me to
try to boot on this image (thx Chris), but now, as I've said to him, here
what I get:
First the smiling
Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We only care when you do -- and if bugs are filed, then no one cares.
Um, say what? Did you mean to say 'if no bugs are filed, then no
one cares.'?
Yah, oops.
I don't mind your brainstorming about a much better installation
system, but that involves
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 11:10:20AM -0700, Tovar wrote:
thou shall not bitch about thine boot floppies unless thy wish to
fix them thyself.
OK, then, how does one generate OldWorld boot floppies? What packages
are required to do that, so whoever takes this on doesn't have to
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 11:10:20AM -0700, Tovar wrote:
thou shall not bitch about thine boot floppies unless thy wish to
fix them thyself.
OK, then, how does one generate OldWorld boot floppies? What packages
are required to do that, so whoever takes this on doesn't have to
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
is debian-installer going to do this the same way? copying the kernel
from the `rescue' disk if thats what it still ends be up being called.
I doubt it -- they use .udebs for this kinda stuff I bet.
--
.Adam Di [EMAIL
Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The answer is another question, how wide spread do we want the use
of Debian to be? In FreeBSD, it works quite well, and there is no
reason it can't work this way on Debian: you enter your network
settings, it goes off and
The real question of course is: how easy should the install process be? The
Debian answer seems to be something like As easy as our volunteers have time
for. Since all of us user/maintainers already have everything installed,
and can use the working-if-not-friendly install process perfectly
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:52:31PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:40:07AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from
Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have installed (on i386) potato (r0 i think) from CD, and this is exactly
how it works. it gets the linux file and the modules.tar.gz to get the
modules.
No, that's wishful thinking. See choose_medium.c:
char kernel_image_path[PATH_MAX+1] =
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:53:35AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have installed (on i386) potato (r0 i think) from CD, and this is exactly
how it works. it gets the linux file and the modules.tar.gz to get the
modules.
No, that's wishful thinking.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 05:08:42PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:53:35AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have installed (on i386) potato (r0 i think) from CD, and this is
exactly
how it works. it gets the linux file and the
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:09:53PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:41:28PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
i don't think its possible to make a generic rescue image that will
boot all the various powerpcs, but isn't there several different
versions of it anyway for the
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:40:07AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from this floppy on sparc?
Sure.
Only on architecture, PowerPC, is in bad
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:37:21PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
So what if there were some company with a commercial interest in writing a
high-quality installer for Debian? Then they'd hire people to put in lots of
time to make it nice and friendly, like letting people easily reconfigure
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from this floppy on sparc?
Sure.
Only on architecture, PowerPC, is in bad enough shape to require one
image for actual booting (when possible at
Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I was thinking was that a more sophisticated method for
generating the docs could be utilized. Something that would pull
arch specific sections from the right places and insert them into
the doc just before placing that doc at its intended
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:40:07AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from this floppy on sparc?
Sure.
Only on architecture, PowerPC, is in bad
to realize that TFTP booting wouldn't work on the
8500. I read all the dire warnings about floppy booting and figured
TFTP would be the way to go, and jumped through a lot of hoops to figure
out how to get BOOTP and TFTP set up on my Slackware laptop, and to get
into open firmware from the screen
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:42:54AM -0400, MC wrote:
[install experience and sucky powerpc docs snipped]
So there's a few more criticisms:
- after you start up in your initial install and you're trying to
initialize apt for the first time, you should be given more diagnostic
information as
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:40:07AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
Michael Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 'rescue floppy' doesn't even work as this on a whole other bunch of
architectures I bet. Can you boot from this floppy on sparc?
Sure.
Only on architecture, PowerPC, is in bad
Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But i was told a long time ago this was not ok, because you have to make sure
that the kernel used is the same as the modules used.
Is this no mor ethe case ?
No, it's the case, but you can grab the right kernel for your flavor
and subarchitecture easily
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:42:54AM -0400, MC wrote:
[install experience and sucky powerpc docs snipped]
So there's a few more criticisms:
- after you start up in your initial install and you're trying to
initialize apt for the first time, you should be given more
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:56:26AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:42:54AM -0400, MC wrote:
[install experience and sucky powerpc docs snipped]
So there's a few more criticisms:
- after you start up in your initial install and you're
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:41:28PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
i don't think its possible to make a generic rescue image that will
boot all the various powerpcs, but isn't there several different
versions of it anyway for the different powerpc sub-archs?
Seems like a moot point since we
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:56:26AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
I think I agree with you Ethan, but at the same time, MC does have a point
that
this makes for a very unfriendly install experience. This is a generic potato
boot-floppies issue across all arches. Will the new woody
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:58:59PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
wish i had the requisite skills to try and make improvments to them
but i don't.
Hmm, what exactly would you need to know?
2.2.19 root disk prob would need kernel hacking skill
Docs would need a good tech writer. I may be able
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 07:14:08PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:58:59PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
wish i had the requisite skills to try and make improvments to them
but i don't.
Hmm, what exactly would you need to know?
C programming skills and the ability to
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:56:26AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
I think I agree with you Ethan, but at the same time, MC does have a point
that
this makes for a very unfriendly install experience. This is a generic
potato
boot-floppies issue across all
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 07:26:55PM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Me neither, but what the user was insinuating is that he doesn't
necessarily know the *right* answers, and wants to have a system
where he can try many different combinations without having to start
the install from the beginning
No, no, yes, and ... no. I have one with a 2.2.17 kernel on it
which isn't good for installations of 2.2r2 because they use the
2.2.18 kernel, so you get these problems with modules but it
_is_ good for a rescue floppy! Just kidding, I don't want to start
the rescue floppy thing again; you
the bootable part
of the CD is really just the rescue floppy image. So technically
what prevents this from booting on new world macs is that they don't
have floppy drives. But a very slightly modified rescue floppy
image is the bootable part of the CD. It even says thanks for
booting the rescue
arch that uses the x86 kludge for bootable
CDs.
what prevents this from booting on new world macs is that they don't
have floppy drives. But a very slightly modified rescue floppy
image is the bootable part of the CD. It even says thanks for
booting the rescue floppy or somesuch when you
syslinux actually. and it can take a root= argument but if you don't
give a root= argument you get a root disk prompt.
Yeah, that's what I said/meant. The boot-floppy-hfs.img floppy
doesn't work the same way as the rescue floppy does for other
architectures. My point is that for powerpc,
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:34:43PM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote:
For the remaining tasks, the generic install doc is the better guide
indeed. My statement above didn't mean I'd like to replace the generic
docs with per-arch ones. Just separate out the specific things to be more
flexible in
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:21:18PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
I've never needed rescue.bin for that. Granted I've only done two
installs. ~:^) But there are two images called driver-1.bin and
driver-2.bin which one might guess have drivers on them. Never used
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 11:35:50PM -0800, Tovar wrote:
just my crazy suggestion, if you can't get the keyboard to work right
for the rootdisk prompt, what about changing it to wait 10 or 15
seconds for a rootdisk insertion and then
At 13:45 +0100 2/27/01, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Feb 27, Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two floppy images in the powerpc dist that might be
mentioned. One is called rescue.bin, the other boot-floppy-hfs.img,
and hence a newbie might easily think that the former is the rescue
just my crazy suggestion, if you can't get the keyboard to work right
for the rootdisk prompt, what about changing it to wait 10 or 15
seconds for a rootdisk insertion and then continuing? would that be
difficult/messy to implement?
Well, the standard Mac way of doing things is
On Feb 27, Andrew Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two floppy images in the powerpc dist that might be
mentioned. One is called rescue.bin, the other boot-floppy-hfs.img,
and hence a newbie might easily think that the former is the rescue
floppy mentioned often in the docs, but is
Hallo Kenney,
The boot-floppies are indeed for all architectures.
But for this question, debian-powerpc is a better place to ask.
( there CC-ed )
At 20:25 +0100 2/26/01, Kenney Mark wrote:
All,
I want to install Debian on a Mac, and can get my Power Macintosh 8500/120
to the Open Firmware
Welcome to the powerpc boot floppy fiasco. The rescue floppy will
only work on New World macs, and yours is an old world. The
boot-floppy-hfs.img file is the image of a bootable floppy for the
old world macs for install purposes, but it has a keyboard issue and
doesn't work without some
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:28:55PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Welcome to the powerpc boot floppy fiasco. The rescue floppy will
only work on New World macs, and yours is an old world. The
That's just not true. The rescue floppy is not meant to be booted off
of on this architecture at all.
Um, yeah, that must be what I meant. Actually, what I meant is
this: the docs constantly talk about booting the rescue floppy for
this that and the other. But the rescue floppy for the powerpc
port is an ext2 file system, and doesn't boot at all on old world
macs, and I just assumed that it must
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:48:40PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Um, yeah, that must be what I meant. Actually, what I meant is
this: the docs constantly talk about booting the rescue floppy for
this that and the other. But the rescue floppy for the powerpc
port is an ext2 file system
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:48:40PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Um, yeah, that must be what I meant. Actually, what I meant is
this: the docs constantly talk about booting the rescue floppy for
this that and the other. But the rescue floppy for the powerpc
port
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:21:18PM -0800, Andrew Sharp wrote:
I've never needed rescue.bin for that. Granted I've only done two
installs. ~:^) But there are two images called driver-1.bin and
driver-2.bin which one might guess have drivers on them. Never used
those either.
every install
Dear List
Does anyone know the BootX arguments to get to console to go to
/dev/ttya ( /or /dev/ttyS0 ). I can't seem to get the keyboard
active on the 7300 for the boot-floppy-hfs.img boot. I have seen
references in the News archives but didn't want to trawl thru all
that. TIA.
Stuart
--
Known bug. Can you boot using BootX from macos? That is probably the easiest
if your CDROM isn't capable of booting. If it is, make yourself a CD and boot
from that. Or, get your hands on the floppy from the previous release of
potato. I know some people have done that. But that was too much
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