Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On 5/12/19 11:25 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: >  Yes: see this page: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/08/msg00042.html > >  The previous instructions seem to work still reliably. For a later > install on Debian see this: >

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-12 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Adrian, Sorry, I'm really late with my answer: On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 12:54:54PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! I have dug out one of my iBook G4s now so I can perform installer tests on the PowerMac target. While the machine has a built-in optical drive, I would avoid

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 8:46 PM, Karl wrote: > Finally the installation is running with the following command: > boot usb0/disk@1:2,\install\yaboot > > I thought the new bootloader is GRUB? The new bootloader for the *installed* system is GRUB, the bootloader for the installer is going to be GRUB within the

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-04 Thread Karl
Finally the installation is running with the following command: boot usb0/disk@1:2,\install\yaboot I thought the new bootloader is GRUB? Thanks in advance > Am 04.05.2019 um 11:44 schrieb Linux User #330250 : > > Am 01.05.19 um 12:18 schrieb aggaz: >> After reading your email I was able to

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-04 Thread Karl
Hello, if I type the following: boot usb1/disk@1:2,\\yaboot I got the message can’t open device or file. What have I got to do? disk1 is listed in the device tree as dev / ls usb@1b /disk@1 devalias usb1 … usb@1b I have a Powerbook G4 12“ 1.5GHz Powerbook 6,8 Model M9690LL Image is

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-04 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 01.05.19 um 12:18 schrieb aggaz: > After reading your email I was able to see that with a USB stick > inserted at boot a disk device indeed shows up in the device tree > (visible by using the command "dev / ls"), but I am still not able to > list its files by using the command "dir". Which

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-01 Thread Noah Wolfe
Fienix is by Casey Cullen, not Christian Zigotsky. Likewise for the instructional video. On May 1, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Stephan Hubers wrote: > Hi, > > From what I know about Macintosh and it’s Open Firmware, FireWire is > set as a default boot-option since OF 2. Therefor any G3 or G4 >

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-01 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/1/19 12:18, aggaz wrote: For what is worth, I think that a developer in need to test several CD images without burning them should consider investing in a FireWire HD. As far as I know booting from FireWire should be much easier, but I never tried it. You don't even need a disk attached

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-01 Thread Stephan Hubers
Hi, From what I know about Macintosh and it’s Open Firmware, FireWire is set as a default boot-option since OF 2. Therefor any G3 or G4 Macintosh will boot from firewire using the Command+Option boot-key. The Open Firmware will recognize the FireWire boot-sector by default. So, yes… trying

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-01 Thread aggaz
Thanks for all the information you are providing. Despite my efforts I still am not able to boot my eMac G4 (Apple PowerMac6,4) by USB. After reading your email I was able to see that with a USB stick inserted at boot a disk device indeed shows up in the device tree (visible by using the command

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-01 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 01.05.19 um 06:18 schrieb Mark Cave-Ayland: > 2) Plug the USB stick into your Mac and boot into OpenFirmware by > holding down the relevant keys when you hear the chime > (CTRL-Apple-shift-O-F?) This is the precondition. OF doesn't support hot-plugging, so it really needs that USB pen drive

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > What about a funding? I would actually be willing to shell out some money Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > Certainly if there were some funding available, this is something that I > could look at if required. If you do, i am ready for giving advise about

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Odd. I just ran this command on Debian/powerpc but it didn't produce any > > output file but also no error message. > Ah, grub-mkrescue needs xorriso as a dependency. I wonder why this gesture of grub-mkrescue did not tell you: if (!check_xorriso

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 30/04/2019 23:59, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Both usb0 and usb1 show an empty list for me on my iBook G4. usb2 lists > the internal keyboard and mouse. So it seems that this particular model > doesn't support USB disks unless I am missing something. I actually managed to install on my

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/30/19 6:07 PM, Steve Burkhart wrote: > This has worked for me on every ibook / powerbook I have tried it on. > First check to see where your usb stick is located. You would do > > dev usb0 > > ls > > dev usb1 > > ls > > etc.. until you find the one that has @disk1 Both usb0 and usb1 show

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Noah Wolfe
https://fienixppc.blogspot.com/p/instructions-for-open-firmware-g5.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS58kQ10qas On Apr 30, 2019, at 6:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > I have dug out one of my iBook G4s now so I can perform installer > tests > on the PowerMac target.

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Peter
>Hello! > >I have dug out one of my iBook G4s now so I can perform installer >tests on the PowerMac target. While the machine has a built-in optical >drive, I would avoid having to burn CDs for every installation test >run (even when using CD-RWs), so I was wondering how well booting from >USB

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/30/19 11:38 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 4/30/19 10:42 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> A merely bootable ISO which leads to a GRUB console prompt is produced >> by: >> >> mkdir minimal >> touch minimal/empty-file.txt >> grub-mkrescue -o output.iso minimal >> >> output.iso is

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/30/19 10:42 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > A merely bootable ISO which leads to a GRUB console prompt is produced > by: > > mkdir minimal > touch minimal/empty-file.txt > grub-mkrescue -o output.iso minimal > > output.iso is supposed to contain an Apple Partition Map and a HFS+ >

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread S.G.A. Hubers
Hello all, In response to the booting G4 from USB... I booted my iBook G4 (A1134 2005 model with 1,42 GHz cpu and 1GB DDR) with the string : > boot usb0/disk@1:2,\\yaboot Going straight into the second partition on the USB, where all the boot information is stored. Some use the third

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On 4/30/19 10:42 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > There is a GRUB_INSTALL_PLATFORM_POWERPC_IEEE1275 for which > grub-mkrescue produces bootable ISOs. I understand that the ISO gets > prepared with HFS+ for this platform if a directory > > /usr/lib/grub/powerpc-ieee1275 > > exists with the

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, aggaz wrote: > Are ISO images capable to boot with GRUB instead of yaboot already > available for the masses? If so I would like to try to boot one. There is a GRUB_INSTALL_PLATFORM_POWERPC_IEEE1275 for which grub-mkrescue produces bootable ISOs. I understand that the ISO gets prepared with

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 4/30/19 21:56, Linux User #330250 wrote: Despite what others said, it should really work with every Macintosh that has the NewWorld bootrom and thus at least Open Firmware 3.0, i.e. starting with the iMac "Bondi" 1998 and the PowerBook G3 "Lombard" 1999. And, it's all already written down in

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 30.04.19 um 12:54 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > Hello! I have dug out one of my iBook G4s now so I can perform > installer tests on the PowerMac target. While the machine has a > built-in optical drive, I would avoid having to burn CDs for every > installation test run (even when using

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Steve Burkhart
This has worked for me on every ibook / powerbook I have tried it on. First check to see where your usb stick is located. You would do dev usb0 ls dev usb1 ls etc.. until you find the one that has @disk1 this is the one that you want to tell OF to boot from. So, lets say your usb stick is at

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Karl
Last Gen of Powerbook G4 12“ doesn’t boot from USB also. > Am 30.04.2019 um 16:08 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > : > > On 4/30/19 3:49 PM, aggaz wrote: >> (snip) >> I find the documentation from NetBSD be the best companion to exploit >> OpenFirmware, in case of problems I suggest to

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
Pretty straight forward 1. Burn the image to usb 2. Plug it in 3 boot into the boot loader by holding down the opt key 4. You should see the usb as a boot device Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2019, at 3:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > Hello! > > I have dug out one of my

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/30/19 3:49 PM, aggaz wrote: > (snip) > I find the documentation from NetBSD be the best companion to exploit > OpenFirmware, in case of problems I suggest to take a look at it [1,2]. > > [1] https://www.netbsd.org/ports/macppc/faq.html > [2]

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread aggaz
As far as I know, only newer machines are able to boot from USB. I was able to boot from USB on a PowerMac G5 (PowerMac11,2), but I was not able to boot on an iMac G3 and on a eMac G4. In the case of the G5, if the machine is booted with a USB stick in it, it should be possible to see the "ud"

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 4/30/19 2:42 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > Hi Adrian, > IIRC "aggaz" used a USB stick to boot his G5, see [1]. Seems like one > can just `dd` the ISO to the USB stick and it works with `boot > :,\install\yaboot` or sometimes also with `boot > :,\\:tbxi` - if USB boot is supported by the machine.

Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread Frank Scheiner
Hi Adrian, On 4/30/19 12:54, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! I have dug out one of my iBook G4s now so I can perform installer tests on the PowerMac target. While the machine has a built-in optical drive, I would avoid having to burn CDs for every installation test run (even when using

Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-04-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! I have dug out one of my iBook G4s now so I can perform installer tests on the PowerMac target. While the machine has a built-in optical drive, I would avoid having to burn CDs for every installation test run (even when using CD-RWs), so I was wondering how well booting from USB sticks