On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:23:15PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 02:14:51AM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote:
Thanks for the pointer. AFAICS it's for the user who installs a kernel-image
package though; is there a way to influence this with kernel-package or in
my
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:07:35AM +0200, Michel Daenzer wrote:
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 02:14:51AM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote:
Thanks for the pointer. AFAICS it's for the user who installs a
kernel-image package though; is there a way to influence this with
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 02:24:01PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:16:40PM +0200, Michel Daenzer wrote:
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:07:35AM +0200, Michel Daenzer wrote:
As the bootloader lives in AmigaOS entirely it doesn't make sense to
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:04:05PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
I wrote:
i don't see how this is possible, i removed lilo from my x86 boxes
awhile ago when i installed grub, as soon as i did all the boot floppy
and lilo questions in
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
i would say `its been done once, it can done again'
Because only 3 person had the NDA and the access of not well done docs for it,
from which, i think only 1 is still actively working on apus, the hardward
company that made the
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 05:19:56AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
i would say `its been done once, it can done again'
Because only 3 person had the NDA and the access of not well done docs for
it,
from which, i think only 1 is
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 03:32:44PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 05:19:56AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
i would say `its been done once, it can done again'
Because only 3 person had the NDA and the access
Sven LUTHER wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:07:35AM +0200, Michel Daenzer wrote:
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 02:14:51AM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote:
Thanks for the pointer. AFAICS it's for the user who installs a
kernel-image package though; is there a way
Hi,
Ethan Benson wrote:
AFAIK Roman Zippel had implemented a LILO like loader at one point but it
got
lost. :(
lost? how? did he never distribute it to anyone?
i would say `its been done once, it can done again'
Sure it can :), but I need to find some time for it.
The problem is
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:36:28PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
I suppose you could make a package of it.
You would then also need a working cross binutils and gcc to build it from,
i think. i tried some time ago to do such things with the GG stuff, but
didn't have time to finish it.
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:16:40PM +0200, Michel Daenzer wrote:
AFAIK Roman Zippel had implemented a LILO like loader at one point but it
got
lost. :(
lost? how? did he never distribute it to anyone?
Lost like in `we lost the accelerated
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:07:35AM +0200, Michel Daenzer wrote:
As the bootloader lives in AmigaOS entirely it doesn't make sense to create a
package for it.
nor to add anything about it to kernel-package...
you would be better off to make a real bootloader not relying on
proprietary OSes, or
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:07:35AM +0200, Michel Daenzer wrote:
As the bootloader lives in AmigaOS entirely it doesn't make sense to
create a package for it.
nor to add anything about it to kernel-package...
It already has to handle the subarch, do you think this
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 06:42:24PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
APUS has its own, BootX/loadlin-style bootloader which resides on the
AmigaOS side completely. I already contacted the kernel-package maintainer
about this, asking him about his thoughts on just prompting
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 09:15:59PM -0400, Russell Hires wrote:
Is there some way of checking the OF for version information? If there is,
perhaps there could be some unification of the utilities...i.e., version 1.0
is OldWorld, version 3 is New...then the appropriate steps would be followed
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 02:26:45PM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Um, well, wait a second. There's quik and there's yaboot. The
latter needs a little 800K partition, but is that so wrong? Quik
for old world and yaboot for newworld powermacs. If you want to use
quik, you also have to be good.
I'd like to be able to simply boot off of the hard disk from with only
an ext2 partition on the disk and nothing else. I must admit that I'm
new to the PPC architecture so if this is already possible please let me
know.
thanks,
Andy
Michel Dänzer wrote:
Ethan Benson wrote:
I have been
Ethan Benson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 02:14:51AM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote:
Thanks for the pointer. AFAICS it's for the user who installs a
kernel-image package though; is there a way to influence this with
kernel-package or in my source package that I'm not seeing?
you can
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 02:26:45PM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Um, well, wait a second. There's quik and there's yaboot. The
latter needs a little 800K partition, but is that so wrong? Quik
its a bit annoying to have to have some silly partition for booting,
but this is the way i see it:
Ethan Benson wrote:
I have been thinking about the way kernel-images currently handle the
standard bootloader and boot-floppy questions on installation.
Right now its rather deficient on powerpc as it assumes all PowerPCs
are created equal which is far from the truth:
it assumes all
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 04:01:53AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
NewWorld powermacs all lack floppy drives so it would seem logical to
simply default to do_bootfloppy = False if the machine is a NewWorld
powermac.
I'll agree with that.
however its impossible to really make a very useful
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 06:59:24PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
According to netbsd docs, a user can get the OF version by typing
dev /openprom
.properties
at the OF prompt. The response can be parsed for 'model'. But doing that
from Linux is another matter.
Perhaps this:
cat
Um, well, wait a second. There's quik and there's yaboot. The
latter needs a little 800K partition, but is that so wrong? Quik
for old world and yaboot for newworld powermacs. If you want to use
quik, you also have to be good. ~:^)
a
Tom Rini wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 01:44:45PM
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 02:47:30PM -0700, Tom Rini wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 02:26:45PM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote:
Um, well, wait a second. There's quik and there's yaboot. The
latter needs a little 800K partition, but is that so wrong? Quik
for old world and yaboot for newworld
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 06:42:24PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
APUS has its own, BootX/loadlin-style bootloader which resides on the AmigaOS
side completely. I already contacted the kernel-package maintainer about this,
asking him about his thoughts on just prompting the user to undertake the
I don't care if you're going nowhere,
Just take good care of the world.
-- Depeche Mode
--
From: Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-powerpc debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFC: What should be done about kernel
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 01:44:45PM -0500, Andrew D Dixon wrote:
I'd like to be able to simply boot off of the hard disk from with only
an ext2 partition on the disk and nothing else. I must admit that I'm
new to the PPC architecture so if this is already possible please let me
know.
Er,
Okay, but the original question makes it sound like the user is still going
to have to have some idea about whether they have a new/oldworld machine or
not. I say there should be a utility for both the Mac OS and for Linux that
should be able to probe the OF and set the user on the proper course
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:05:57AM -0400, Russell Hires wrote:
Okay, but the original question makes it sound like the user is still going
to have to have some idea about whether they have a new/oldworld machine or
no
not. I say there should be a utility for both the Mac OS and for Linux that
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 01:44:45PM -0500, Andrew D Dixon wrote:
I'd like to be able to simply boot off of the hard disk from with only
an ext2 partition on the disk and nothing else. I must admit that I'm
new to the PPC architecture so if this is already possible please let me
know.
its
Hi,
I have been thinking about the way kernel-images currently handle the
standard bootloader and boot-floppy questions on installation.
Right now its rather deficient on powerpc as it assumes all PowerPCs
are created equal which is far from the truth:
it assumes all powerpcs use quik as the
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