Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello Adrian, I should have been more accurate when I wrote Debian "doesn't detect it at all". Attached are the outputs of some relevant commands. So, looks like the hardware is detected just fine, but NetworkManager won't start. Any ideas? On 9/20/24 01:06, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wro

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 12:11:11 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I assume the new kernel works fine on your PowerBook G4 so far? It does - I didn't give it thorough testing yet, but it boots without any hiccups. I spotted some BT complaint which likely is unrelated. Now I've got to find o

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 12:04 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > The reason for this failure is the bug #1076564 [1]. > > I had guessed that (I even have the bug page open) but that one seems to be > somewhat spurious ... in any case, the new kernel made it, so for now I'm > happy I assume the ne

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 12:01:04 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 11:55 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:38:51 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > As I said in my second mail, please just boot into 6.3.0-1 which is shown > > > in th

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 11:55 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:38:51 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > As I said in my second mail, please just boot into 6.3.0-1 which is shown > > in the Advanced Options menu of GRUB. You can then install 6.11.x from > > experimen

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:38:51 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > As I said in my second mail, please just boot into 6.3.0-1 which is shown > in the Advanced Options menu of GRUB. You can then install 6.11.x from > experimental where this issue has been fixed - once the kernel package has >

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 13:09:00 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > FWIW on most of my machines "boot ud:,\\yaboot" will boot from USB, > but not all of them. > > On Thu, 26 Sept 2024 at 12:47, Steffen Grunewald > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 12:42:02 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > > > There ar

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

FWIW on most of my machines "boot ud:,\\yaboot" will boot from USB, but not all of them. On Thu, 26 Sept 2024 at 12:47, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 12:42:02 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > > There are hints in some forum threads that the A1095 indeed may be one of > > >

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 12:42:02 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > There are hints in some forum threads that the A1095 indeed may be one of > > few (perhaps the only?) G4 models that cannot boot from USB. > > BootROM version is 4.8.6f0, fwiw. > > That's frustrating. Can you confirm which partition

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

Yo! I'm lost trying to make mental notes of my actual notes, but im om it and wont give 'much rest' till im halfway there, my best suggestion is to use OpenFirmware 'truckery' and boot grub to boot the proper ISO or env? On Tue, 24 Sep 2024, 13:42 Mark Cave-Ayland, wrote: > On 24/09/2024 10:21,

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On 24/09/2024 10:21, Steffen Grunewald wrote: On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 09:43:39 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: FWIW I did my last install on a G4 Mac Mini using a USB stick running Adrian's latest (at the time) image. I used dd to copy the netinst image to a USB stick, used "show-devs" to locate

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 09:43:39 +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > FWIW I did my last install on a G4 Mac Mini using a USB stick running > Adrian's latest (at the time) image. I used dd to copy the netinst image to > a USB stick, used "show-devs" to locate the USB drive, and then tweaked the > cd a

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On 24/09/2024 09:21, Steffen Grunewald wrote: Hi Efraim, On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 10:25:56 +0300, Efraim Flashner wrote: I know the powerbook and ibook are different machines, but I was able to boot my ibook off a USB stick. I'll drop the link here in case it does actually work for you. https://

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

Hi Efraim, On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 10:25:56 +0300, Efraim Flashner wrote: > I know the powerbook and ibook are different machines, but I was able to > boot my ibook off a USB stick. I'll drop the link here in case it does > actually work for you. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2023/10/

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 03:26:30PM +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52:38 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > > 11.0.0 "Sid" Unofficial powerpc NETINST 20211006-11:28 > > > > That image is quite old. > > It must have served a purpose a whi

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 03:26:30PM +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52:38 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > > 11.0.0 "Sid" Unofficial powerpc NETINST 20211006-11:28 > > > > That image is quite old. > > It must have served a purpose a whi

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:31 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:26:30 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > after "You can't boot a kdump kernel from OF!". > > > > Whatever that asks me to do next... > > Hm, #1079755i (and #1079725). I should have remembered this. > I guess a

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 15:26:30 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > after "You can't boot a kdump kernel from OF!". > > Whatever that asks me to do next... Hm, #1079755i (and #1079725). I should have remembered this. I guess a reasonable workaround would be to use the kernel from the CD? - S

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

Hi Adrian, On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52:38 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > 11.0.0 "Sid" Unofficial powerpc NETINST 20211006-11:28 > > That image is quite old. It must have served a purpose a while ago, and this PowerBook is the only ARM device around, AFAICT. Hm. I'm pretty sure

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:52 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:13 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > > I'm sorry I've got to chime in, but I'm currently lost trying to install > > Debian on a resuscitated PowerBook G4 - which got a new disk during the > > process (M.2

Re: Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

Hi Steffen, On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:13 +0200, Steffen Grunewald wrote: > I'm sorry I've got to chime in, but I'm currently lost trying to install > Debian on a resuscitated PowerBook G4 - which got a new disk during the > process (M.2 128 GB "disk" in M.2-to-44-pin-IDE adapter) as the old one > m

Installing on PowerBook G4 - grub failure

Hi all, I'm sorry I've got to chime in, but I'm currently lost trying to install Debian on a resuscitated PowerBook G4 - which got a new disk during the process (M.2 128 GB "disk" in M.2-to-44-pin-IDE adapter) as the old one must have been broken and removed... I've started from CD, the image adv

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

forgotten to upload it or something, i need to verify my XNU stuff before i do much more really. On Sun, 22 Sept 2024, 09:27 Mike, wrote: > What about installing from a qemu or debbootstrap from a usb/chroot and do > some OF trickery? > > On Sun, 22 Sept 2024, 06:28 Ken Cunningham, <

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

What about installing from a qemu or debbootstrap from a usb/chroot and do some OF trickery? On Sun, 22 Sept 2024, 06:28 Ken Cunningham, wrote: > So the key points are: > > 1. you have to use the special ISO, and no other ISO than the latest > special ISO should be used. Right

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

So the key points are: 1. you have to use the special ISO, and no other ISO than the latest special ISO should be used. Right now, I think you're still waiting to hear which ISO that is. 2. Do NOT believe any other website you might find or YouTube channel you might find that claims to tell you

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello Adrian, Yes, I tried booting into the older kernel from GRUB.  In fact, attempting to load the latest kernel from the repositories causes the system to crash back to Open Firmware, as discussed previously. However, you mentioned that all further discussion should be based on a known

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Keeping an eye on everything 'boot' if anyone has any suggestions or thought's and notes of my notes, please let me know, im apparently trying to solve all the problems i can imagine; https://github.com/threader/AltanOS https://github.com/threader/xnu_gcc_libc_etc_darwin Im especially interested in

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hi, On Thu, 2024-09-19 at 22:49 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > Great, which one is the proper image? Sorry, I was too busy and forgot looking for the recommended image. > I went ahead and tried this one: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/ >   > The Ethernet worked during the ins

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello Adrian, Great, which one is the proper image? I went ahead and tried this one: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/current/ The Ethernet worked during the installation, but afterwards Debian doesn't detect it at all. On 9/12/24 02:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Cedar

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hi Cedar, On Wed, 2024-09-11 at 16:51 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > Thank you for your reply.  Here is the link to the image I used: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/powerpc That one doesn't work. Let me pick the proper image for you first as further discussions should be based on

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

on to GRUB not installing was to have the Ethernet hooked up during installation.  I reinstalled and I appear to have a mostly functional system, with some quirks.  I think perhaps my first installation didn't get wiped, although I was quite certain the installer said it was formatting the

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello Cedar, On Thu, 2024-09-05 at 14:16 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > I just installed the latest stable Debian iso on my iBook G4, but the > grub bootloader install failed during the installation.  When I boot, > I get the grub prompt. Please provide the URL of the installation image that you u

Re: Trouble installing on iBook G4

There was talk a few years ago about an installation FAQ for Apple PowerPC systems, but in the end, the idea was vetoed. Look backward though this mailing list -- you will find someone has asked the exact same question recently. It comes up every few weeks / months. In the answer to that questi

Trouble installing on iBook G4

Hello PowerPC Debian users, I just installed the latest stable Debian iso on my iBook G4, but the grub bootloader install failed during the installation.  When I boot, I get the grub prompt.  I've been trying to follow the instructions at posts like this one: https://superuser.com/questions

Re: Question on installing Debian ppc on iBook with small HD

> > I would recommend a fresh installation and let the partioning tool > handling the partition > sizes. > > Adrian > > > > Adrian: Thanks for the reply, it's been so long that I ran an installation that way, I'm usually installing "custom"

Re: Question on installing Debian ppc on iBook with small HD

Hi Fritz! Apologies for the late reply! On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 08:57 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > So, I got into the Net installer on an '04 iBook with 40GB HD, I have approx > 11 GB > set for what is right now Lubuntu 16.04, which is booting from Yaboot in the > HFS > partition sda2, but that p

Question on installing Debian ppc on iBook with small HD

CC-ing you at your suse email and hopefully on the powerpc list-serve?? On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:32 AM Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Fritz! > > We should probably move the discussion over to debian-powerpc [1]. > > > The partitioning scheme was changed to accommodate the switch from Yaboot > to G

Re: Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

> On Jan 23, 2023, at 6:16 PM, David VANTYGHEM > wrote: > > I tried almost all ISO, none is working (installation is OK but not first > boot). > I am pretty sure the March version works. If it doesn’t, I need a log file. Adrian

Re: Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

The powerpc snapshot from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-03-28/ works for me in qemu. Try that one if you haven’t already. If you have tried that then maybe its some other setting.

Re: Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

Hello Adrian, I tried almost all ISO, none is working (installation is OK but not first boot). I will try nexts. Le 23/01/2023 à 10:34, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit : Hello David! On 1/23/23 01:06, David VANTYGHEM wrote: Today, I installed the last version https://cdimage.debian.org/

Re: Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

I used this command: qemu-system-ppc \ -monitor stdio \ -k fr \ -machine accel=tcg \ -m 512 \ -drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso",if=ide,media=disk \ -drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Docum

Re: Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

Hello David! On 1/23/23 01:06, David VANTYGHEM wrote: Today, I installed the last version https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-12-09/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso in a virtual machine with AQEMU. I choosed LXDE. The installation is working completely now. But the firs

Re: Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

What command did you use to attempt the install? I used something like this: #!/bin/bash qemu-system-ppc \ -L pc-bios \ -boot d \ -M mac99 \ -m 2048 \ -prom-env 'auto-boot?=true' \ -prom-env 'boot-args=-v' \ -prom-env 'vga-ndrv?=true' \ -drive file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/debian

Installing Debian for PowerPC in Qemu

Hi, Today, I installed the last version https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-12-09/debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso in a virtual machine with AQEMU. I choosed LXDE. The installation is working completely now. But the first boot doesn't work : I followed all these step

Re: Some background information - was: Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

Unfortunately this still appears to fail for me, at least in qemu. I do get an hfs partition during the partitioning stage, but grub fails installing to /dev/sda2. Interestingly I don’t get to select the partition. > On 23 Mar 2022, at 13:44, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: >

Re: Some background information - was: Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

Hello Dan! On 3/24/22 07:36, Dan Whitehouse wrote: > Unfortunately this still appears to fail for me, at least in qemu. > I do get an hfs partition during the partitioning stage, but grub fails > installing to /dev/sda2. > Interestingly I don’t get to select the partition. This is

Re: Some background information - was: Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

Hello! On 12/27/21 11:42, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Last but not least, the partman-hfs udeb package is currently not part of the > official Debian distribution > as I have not continued with the work while the updated hfsprogs package was > still in the NEW queue. I > wasn't sure wheth

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, at 2:56 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > If you really want to help me, I suggest that you perform systematic tests > with said > image and collect the results and summarize expected behavior and actual > behavior > of the software. Also, please always save the log

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

Hello! On 12/27/21 03:20, Rick Thomas wrote: > If it's true that modern grub can dig into an LVM containing root containing > /boot, why is there any reason to want a separate /boot partition at all? > Is this a feature that only applies to grub for powerpc? I really like the > feature of having

Some background information - was: Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

Hello! On 12/19/21 19:54, Johannes Brakensiek wrote: > Sorry, that's my bad. Did not know only certain images are supposed to > work. In order to avoid this confusion in the future, let me briefly explain the situation. Both debian-installer, i.e. the application installing Debi

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

t;Your boot partition is not located on the first primary partition of your hard disk ... Go back to the menu and correct the problem?" I remembered Adrian saying that we should ignore this, so I answered "no" It went ahead with configuring the package manager and installing Grub

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

Am Samstag, dem 18.12.2021 um 09:19 +0100 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > Use a different, known to work image. Sorry, that's my bad. Did not know only certain images are supposed to work. Johannes

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

Hello Rick! On 12/18/21 03:53, Rick Thomas wrote: > So... I downloaded the "powerpc" netinst iso from ports/snapshots/2021-10-20/ > and > burned it to a CD-R (the CD-RW's I had on the shelf were so old they couldn't > be recognized in the burner) Why didn't you use any of the snapshots that you

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac? [failed installation -- looking for advice]

heme and allowed it to proceed. When it got to "Install the GRUB boot loader" it failed with this message: Unable to install Grub in /dev/sda3 Executing "grub-install /dev/sda3" failed This is a fatal error I called it to continue without installing grub and when i

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac?

Am Mittwoch, dem 15.12.2021 um 16:32 +0100 schrieb Steffen Grunewald: > I've followed this path for my Powerbook G4, and while installation > > from CD went surprisingly fine, I eventually got an error from the > > GRUB installer - which claimed not to be able to find /dev/sda3 :( > > I did a "

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac?

On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 12:53 AM, Johannes Brakensiek wrote: > Am Dienstag, dem 14.12.2021 um 17:12 -0800 schrieb Rick Thomas: >> What is the URL for the latest Debian installer iso for a powerpc >> (32-bit, G4) macintosh? >> >> Is there anything I need to do (e.g. manually add a few lines to

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac?

Hi, On Wed, 2021-12-15 at 09:53:16 +0100, Johannes Brakensiek wrote: > Am Dienstag, dem 14.12.2021 um 17:12 -0800 schrieb Rick Thomas: > > What is the URL for the latest Debian installer iso for a powerpc > > (32-bit, G4) macintosh? > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-10-2

Re: Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac?

Am Dienstag, dem 14.12.2021 um 17:12 -0800 schrieb Rick Thomas: > What is the URL for the latest Debian installer iso for a powerpc > (32-bit, G4) macintosh? > > Is there anything I need to do (e.g. manually add a few lines to > sources.list after/during the install) other than the the normal > in

Recipe for installing Debian on powerpc (G4, 32-bit) Mac?

What is the URL for the latest Debian installer iso for a powerpc (32-bit, G4) macintosh? Is there anything I need to do (e.g. manually add a few lines to sources.list after/during the install) other than the the normal installation process (i.e. same as I would use for an amd64 machine)? Is t

Works (with a small tweek) on ppc64! [Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, at 4:22 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > For anyone wanting to install a current Debian unstable snapshot onto their > PowerMacs, I'm going to write down a short guide how to make sure GRUB > gets installed properly (in case the installation fails). > > Us

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

> On Feb 10, 2021, at 4:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Two things you need to know: > > 1) The grub menu, that you see when the installer CD first boots up, offers > "expert" mode. If you're not familiar with it, this makes the install > process more granular, so you have more control over

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021, at 11:06 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > A small problem... > After install the machine reboots automatically. We are not given an > opportunity to stop the reboot. In fact, we are not even told a reboot > is going to happen. Maybe the installer needs a step that confirms the >

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/9/21 10:51 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > It looks like the debian-installer folks are getting ready to provide > a new release of the installer > (https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/). Hopefully they will > take the feedback and address the issue before the next release of the > insta

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 4:51 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 2:41 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > > > > On Feb 9, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 2:21 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > > > wrote: > > >> > > On Feb 9, 202

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 2:41 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > On Feb 9, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 2:21 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > > wrote: > >> > On Feb 9, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >>> > >>> After install the machin

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 2:21 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: >> On Feb 9, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >>> >>> After install the machine reboots automatically. We are not given an >>> opportunity to stop the rebo

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 2:21 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > On Feb 9, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > After install the machine reboots automatically. We are not given an > > opportunity to stop the reboot. > > In fact, we are not even told a reboot > > is going to happe

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > After install the machine reboots automatically. We are not given an > opportunity to stop the reboot. > In fact, we are not even told a reboot > is going to happen. That’s not true. The last screen does exactly that. It asks you whethe

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 7:23 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hello! > > For anyone wanting to install a current Debian unstable snapshot onto their > PowerMacs, I'm going to write down a short guide how to make sure GRUB > gets installed properly (in case the installation fails). > > Use ei

Re: Verifying ofpathname - was: Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

Hello! On 2/8/21 9:49 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Thanks to the quick help of Cameron MacPherson I was able to figure out > what's wrong > and in fact the script forgets to set SYS_PATH in l2of_scsi() which was easy > to fix: Package has been fixed: > https://packages.qa.debian.org/

Re: Verifying ofpathname - was: Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

Hello! On 2/8/21 6:31 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:> Hello! > > On 2/8/21 3:14 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> I would be surprised to see that ofpathname returns wrong paths on PowerMac >> G5s as we explicitly >> tested the tool on these machines as well. I will soon have access

Re: Verifying ofpathname - was: Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/8/21 8:35 PM, Cameron MacPherson wrote: >> What version of powerpc-utils is that? >> > > 1.3.8-2 OK. That's a bug then and it seems that the syntax for the port ID has changed in the /sys filesystem shown by the kernel. Could someone provide me with access to a PowerMac G5 running Linux, pl

Re: Verifying ofpathname - was: Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/8/21 8:24 PM, Cameron MacPherson wrote: >> Could you compare that to the output of ofpath from the Yaboot package, >> i.e. "ofpath /dev/sda{1,2,3}? >> > > the ofpath from that ppc64 results are different > > /ht@0,f200/pci@7/k2-sata-root@c/@0/@0 > /ht@0,f200/pci@7/k2-sata-root@c/@0/@

Re: Verifying ofpathname - was: Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/8/21 7:52 PM, Cameron MacPherson wrote: >> # ofpathname /dev/sda >> # ofpathname /dev/sda1 >> # ofpathname /dev/sda2 > > i only have one drive on a powermac7,2: > > /ht@0,f200/pci@7/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0 > /ht@0,f200/pci@7/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0:1 > /ht@0,f200/pci@7/k2-sata-root@c/

Verifying ofpathname - was: Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

Hello! On 2/8/21 3:14 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I would be surprised to see that ofpathname returns wrong paths on PowerMac > G5s as we explicitly > tested the tool on these machines as well. I will soon have access to my G5 > machines again so I > verify that myself. There might b

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 08/02/2021 13:55, Johannes Brakensiek wrote: On 8 Feb 2021, at 14:45, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: This path looks wrong - according to the aliases listing at https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg164291.html th

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

Hi Mark! On 2/8/21 2:45 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: >> # nvsetenv boot-device "/ht@0,f200/pci@5/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0:2,\\:grub" > ^^^ > This path looks wrong - according to the aliases listing at > https://www.mail-archive.com/mis

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 8 Feb 2021, at 14:45, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: This path looks wrong - according to the aliases listing at https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg164291.html the unit address of the k2-sata device which is a child of the k2-sata-root device should be 0, whereas above it is given

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform. Installation finished. No error reported. # export boot_device=$(nvram --print-config=boot-device) #nvsetenv boot-device ${boot_device%%BootX}\\grub This command does nothing because the boot-device string already ends in "grub" and

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

print-config=boot-device /ht@0,f200/pci@5/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0:2,\grub # grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform. Installation finished. No error reported. # export boot_device=$(nvram --print-config=boot-device) #nvsetenv boot-device ${boot_d

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/8/21 12:51 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > # ofpathname /dev/sda2 > /ht@0,f200/pci@5/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0:2 > > # nvram --print-config=boot-device > /ht@0,f200/pci@5/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0:2,\grub > > # grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub > Installing for p

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/7/21 11:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, at 12:43 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 2/7/21 1:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >>> But when it rebooted, all I got was a folder icon with a blinking question >>> mark. >> >> Did you verify that: >> >> - /ht@0,f200/pci@5/k2-s

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, at 12:43 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 2/7/21 1:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > But when it rebooted, all I got was a folder icon with a blinking question > > mark. > > Did you verify that: > > - /ht@0,f200/pci@5/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0:2 corresponds to the pa

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/7/21 1:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > But when it rebooted, all I got was a folder icon with a blinking question > mark. Did you verify that: - /ht@0,f200/pci@5/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0:2 corresponds to the partition where /boot/grub is mounted and GRUB was installed? - Is the filesystem m

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image) -- Works on 32-bit powerpc G4!

clock533.32MHz motherboard PowerMac3,4 MacRISC2 MacRISC Power Macintosh detected as 69 (PowerMac G4 Silver) VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV250 [Radeon 9000 Series] (rev 01) > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Christian Cal

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image) -- Works on 32-bit powerpc G4!

Question for Rick, which G4 are you using and what graphics card? I'm thinking about doing this on my FW800. ~ Christian Calderon On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:00 PM Rick Thomas wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, at 4:22 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hello! > > > > For anyone wanting to i

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image) -- Works on 32-bit powerpc G4!

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, at 4:22 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > For anyone wanting to install a current Debian unstable snapshot onto their > PowerMacs, I'm going to write down a short guide how to make sure GRUB > gets installed properly (in case the installation fails). > > Us

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

e you are... ~ # mount -o bind /dev/ /target/dev/ ~ # mount -o bind /proc/ /target/proc/ ~ # mount -o bind /sys/ /target/sys/ ~ # chroot /target/ # /bin/bash root@kmac:/# nvram --print-config=boot-device /ht@0,f200/pci@5/k2-sata-root@c/@-1/@0:2,\grub root@kmac:/# grub-insta

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

Hello Rick! On 2/4/21 4:25 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> You can verify the correct path with: >> >> # nvram --print-config=boot-device >> >> Can you paste the output here? > > OK, here's the output. > (...) > Hope it helps! It doesn't really help as you didn't provide the output of the command:

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

put here? OK, here's the output. ~ # mount -o bind /dev/ /target/dev/ ~ # mount -o bind /proc/ /target/proc/ ~ # mount -o bind /sys/ /target/sys/ ~ # chroot /target # /bin/bash root@kmac:/# grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform. Installation finis

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

ut here? > > Adrian What I did was to install in expert mode, when it got to installing special parts, I asked it to install the network console. Then I allowed it to proceed and (after a bit) I was invited to log in via ssh, which I did. That way I was able to run the installed in one w

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/3/21 2:49 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > What I did was to install in expert mode, when it got to installing special > parts, > I asked it to install the network console. Then I allowed it to proceed and > (after > a bit) I was invited to log in via ssh, which I did. > > T

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, at 4:22 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > For anyone wanting to install a current Debian unstable snapshot onto their > PowerMacs, I'm going to write down a short guide how to make sure GRUB > gets installed properly (in case the installation fails). > > Use e

Re: Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

On 2/3/21 1:44 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > So I tried this. I installed from the 2021-02-02 NETINST ppc64 on my G5 > powermac. > When it got to the end and wanted to reboot, I switched to the F2 console and > ran > the above routine. Then I allowed it to reboot. You probably did not copy the ins

Workaround for installing Debian onto PowerMacs (2020-02-02 image)

Hello! For anyone wanting to install a current Debian unstable snapshot onto their PowerMacs, I'm going to write down a short guide how to make sure GRUB gets installed properly (in case the installation fails). Use either the powerpc or ppc64 image depending on your machine type: > https://cdim

Re: Installing snapshot 2021-01-03 on a PowerMac G5

fail (partition could not be mounted). I also used a NewWorld boot partition a little bigger (2MB should be enough, took 64MB just to be sure). In rescue mode I installed some drivers from powerprogress using the script and as well the nouveau driver for the NVidia GeForce 6600. Installing the

Re: Installing snapshot 2021-01-03 on a PowerMac G5

ng up the HFS partition for installing GRUB Both issues are known and being worked on. However, since my primary debug machine is an iBook G4 which is a 32-bit machine, I cannot work on the grub-installer issue until I have resolved the libparted issue. The partioner issue turned out to be r

Re: Installing snapshot 2021-01-03 on a PowerMac G5

d/or > bug reports. Thank you. debian-installer is currently broken on PowerMacs due to two issues: - libparted crashes on 32-bit PowerPC causing the partitioner to hang forever when starting up - grub-installer is currently not properly setting up the HFS partition for installing GRUB

Installing snapshot 2021-01-03 on a PowerMac G5

stayed the same: ``` grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target grub-install --force "dummy" grub-installer: Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform. grub-installer: grub-install: error: grub-installer: grub-installer: cannot find a GRUB drive for dummy. Check your device.map grub

Re: Installing Jessie on PowerMac G4 (32 bit) -- expired key

On 23.06.20 10:58, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 23.06.20 09:56, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] A signature applied during a valid key period is still good. For those following a key rotation scheme, no new signatures should occur after the key expires. I agree. I have a related issue in my Thunder

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