Debian on ibook
I have a four(ish) year old ibook sitting on my desk. It was doing nothing so I though 'let's give debian a whirl'. I have it to a terminal prompt, can ssh out and things such as that, but I am having a few difficulties, which I would appreciate some help with: Am a linux/debian newbug, so please don't assume anything! Order of criticality: 2, 1, 4, 3. 1) Keyboard mapping. I have a UK mac keyboard on the ibook. How would I select this? (the keyboard doesn't seem to have a tilde character, which is pretty important!) Is there a relatively easy way to configure my own mapping? 2) Running gnome. I have got close, ish. I have had red crosses on the screen, some grey boxes with lines on... mostly things that look like TV test signals. I have had to ssh into the machine to recover things too. No joy. There were a set of questions about chipsets, bus settings, monitor refresh rates I do not know how to answer these. I would not have known how to get this info even under OS9. 3) then there are relatively minor issues like the sound, and configuring power options (e.g. what pushing the power button does, and the throbbing LED behind the power button. 4) I would like to give specific users (not all users) the ability to power off without being root. My backup plan is to move to OSX, I was on OS9, but I'd really like to get debian going as a learning tool. Help gratefully received. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on ibook
Hi Mark, I'd suggest you get a Ubuntu Breezy/ppc install disc (or it's live version if you just want to test it) from ubuntu.com and install that. Ubuntu is more or less Debian preconfigured for desktop usage. That should solve most, if not all, your issues. Best regards, Maxi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on ibook
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:40:20 +0100, Murk wrote: 1) Keyboard mapping. I have a UK mac keyboard on the ibook. How would I select this? (the keyboard doesn't seem to have a tilde character, which is pretty important!) Is there a relatively easy way to configure my own mapping? In X, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick. 2) Running gnome. I have got close, ish. I have had red crosses on the screen, some grey boxes with lines on... mostly things that look like TV test signals. I have had to ssh into the machine to recover things too. No joy. There were a set of questions about chipsets, bus settings, monitor refresh rates I do not know how to answer these. I would not have known how to get this info even under OS9. Again, badly configure X server. You should try to understand which hardware lies under the white plastic :) Try with lspci -v and if you have no clue on interpreting it post it in the list. 3) then there are relatively minor issues like the sound, and configuring power options (e.g. what pushing the power button does, and the throbbing LED behind the power button. For sound, install alsa-related packages and then issue alsaconf. Power management is taken care of by pbbuttonsd. 4) I would like to give specific users (not all users) the ability to power off without being root. For that you have to install sudo and configure it correctly. Otherwise, create a group called shutdown and add to this group the users you want to give shutdown privileges, then chown /sbin/shutdown to root:shutdown. Have fun! -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on ibook
Jack Malmostoso wrote: On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:40:20 +0100, Murk wrote: 1) Keyboard mapping. I have a UK mac keyboard on the ibook. How would I select this? (the keyboard doesn't seem to have a tilde character, which is pretty important!) Is there a relatively easy way to configure my own mapping? In X, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick. Okay, so that waits for later X first. What about the terminal keyboard mapping (or is that a response to how to make a keyboard map?) 2) Running gnome. I have got close, ish. I have had red crosses on the screen, some grey boxes with lines on... mostly things that look like TV test signals. I have had to ssh into the machine to recover things too. No joy. There were a set of questions about chipsets, bus settings, monitor refresh rates I do not know how to answer these. I would not have known how to get this info even under OS9. Again, badly configure X server. You should try to understand which hardware lies under the white plastic :) Try with lspci -v and if you have no clue on interpreting it post it in the list. Okay (I have to work out how to get files from one machine to the other, this was by ssh and text copy!) :00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 Capabilities: available only to root :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48 Memory at 9400 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] I/O ports at 802400 [size=256] Memory at 9000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Expansion ROM at 9002 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: available only to root :01:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 :01:17.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16 Memory at 8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] :01:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 27 Memory at 80081000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: available only to root :01:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 28 Memory at 8008 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: available only to root :02:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal PCI Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 :02:0e.0 : Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea FireWire (rev ff) (prog-if ff) !!! Unknown header type 7f :02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea GMAC (Sun GEM) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, slow devsel, latency 16, IRQ 41 Memory at f520 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M] Expansion ROM at f510 [disabled] [size=1M] Now, how do I turn that into something gnome can use? 3) then there are relatively minor issues like the sound, and configuring power options (e.g. what pushing the power button does, and the throbbing LED behind the power button. For sound, install alsa-related packages and then issue alsaconf. Power management is taken care of by pbbuttonsd. I'll get into that later. Thanks. I hope I can find and understand the docs there! 4) I would like to give specific users (not all users) the ability to power off without being root. For that you have to install sudo and configure it correctly. Otherwise, create a group called shutdown and add to this group the users you want to give shutdown privileges, then chown /sbin/shutdown to root:shutdown. I'll try that later too, thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More on ibook
I make a little comment about tilde and then find it, typical! Now, all I need is ' ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More on ibook
Murk wrote: I make a little comment about tilde and then find it, typical! Now, all I need is ' ;) On recommendations I am trying Ubuntu, using their LiveCD. It is still doing it's thing, but it is booting into X! Wow. Looks good. The british English keyboard map is a little off (tilde is missing, ironically), but this should be fixable. I could well be using the install CD soon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xorg-6.9.0
Hi all, last night I upgraded to xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2. First I had to do a ldconfig by hand, because startx was complaining about missing libs. Starting X then freezes my PowerBook5,6 completely. No net, no console. So I had to hard reset the machine. I tried the following: Recreating a xorg.conf by dpkg-reconfigure - no success Switching from ati(radeon) driver to fbdev - no success, but no freeze. Switching from 24 to 16 DefaultDepth + fbdev - no success, X shows the wm splashscreen with an cross cursor similar to the twm one but shuts down after a while. Installing libgl1-mesa-dri in the hope r300 is used with radeon driver - frozen machine. Are there significant changes from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 which I have overseen? Elimar -- what IMHO then? IMHO - Inhalation of a Multi-leafed Herbal Opiate ;) --posting from alex in debian-user-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Elimar Riesebieter told: Hi all, last night I upgraded to xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2. First I had to do a ldconfig by hand, because startx was complaining about missing libs. Starting X then freezes my PowerBook5,6 completely. No net, no console. So I had to hard reset the machine. I tried the following: Recreating a xorg.conf by dpkg-reconfigure - no success Switching from ati(radeon) driver to fbdev - no success, but no freeze. Switching from 24 to 16 DefaultDepth + fbdev - no success, X shows the wm splashscreen with an cross cursor similar to the twm one but shuts down after a while. Installing libgl1-mesa-dri in the hope r300 is used with radeon driver - frozen machine. Are there significant changes from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 which I have overseen? #345958 shows similar behaviour. Elimar -- .~. /V\ L I N U X /( )\ Phear the Penguin ^^-^^ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
Hi, I don't have this problem. I am using a vanilla kernel 2.6.15 + xdm + fvwm. I have a ibook : $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 598.01 machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified memory : 512MB pmac-generation : NewWorld regards, Bin On 1/8/06, Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, last night I upgraded to xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2. First I had to do a ldconfig by hand, because startx was complaining about missing libs. Starting X then freezes my PowerBook5,6 completely. No net, no console. So I had to hard reset the machine. I tried the following: Recreating a xorg.conf by dpkg-reconfigure - no success Switching from ati(radeon) driver to fbdev - no success, but no freeze. Switching from 24 to 16 DefaultDepth + fbdev - no success, X shows the wm splashscreen with an cross cursor similar to the twm one but shuts down after a while. Installing libgl1-mesa-dri in the hope r300 is used with radeon driver - frozen machine. Are there significant changes from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 which I have overseen? Elimar -- what IMHO then? IMHO - Inhalation of a Multi-leafed Herbal Opiate ;) --posting from alex in debian-user-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A stupid question about windfarm
Dear all, I installed sid's 2.6.15-1 kernel on a 8,1 powermac, and modprobed windfarm_pm81. The module loads, but noting changes. Google searches with keywords as G5 and fan control point me to the kernel patches. Am I missing some userland software ?? Best, -- Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Bin Zhang told: Hi, I don't have this problem. I am using a vanilla kernel 2.6.15 + xdm + fvwm. I have a ibook : $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 598.01 machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified memory : 512MB pmac-generation : NewWorld nvidia or ati? Elimar -- You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On 1/8/06, Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Bin Zhang told: Hi, I don't have this problem. I am using a vanilla kernel 2.6.15 + xdm + fvwm. I have a ibook : $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 598.01 machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified memory : 512MB pmac-generation : NewWorld nvidia or ati? ati driver radeon in xorg.conf It's a ibook g4 1.2GHz 12. Bin Elimar -- You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble getting bcm43xx driver to work
No such logs on the AP. It just shows me attached dhcp clients and websites accessed. My iBook is not listed as an attached DHCP client. What about the current source revisions/snapshots? Do they work any better? Could you please post your current dmesg and the exact steps you performed (ifconfig, iwconfig ...) Thanks, Michael signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: More on ibook
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:10:14AM +, Murk wrote: Murk wrote: I make a little comment about tilde and then find it, typical! Now, all I need is ' ;) On recommendations I am trying Ubuntu, using their LiveCD. No matter what you'll install in the end, Ubuntu or Debian, if you play with the live CD you could save your keyboard layout for X, if it is working with the live CD, to a CD, or wherever. Same probably also goes for the xorg.conf. As for the keyboard: You can save a running keyboard layout to a file and reload the settings from it whenever you want via 'xmodmap'. I've written a few lines how to do that on http://wolfgangpfeiffer.com/foolinglinux.html#keyboard Secondly: Not every window manager/Desktop environment accepts the settings in ~/.xmodmap without being told explicitly to do that. So in KDE you probably have to put a file like this (I called it xmodmap.sh) - #!/bin/sh xmodmap /home/name_of your_homedir/.xmodmap - to ~/kde/env, and make it executable (something like 'chmod 744 xmodmap.sh', without the quotes). In Gnome you're perhaps getting asked, when you log in, whether .xmodmap should be loaded by Gnome. If not, please search in the Gnome menu for something like Session settings or Startup programs (I can't tell you exactly as I don't use Gnome any more) and put something like xmodmap /home/name_of your_homedir/.xmodmap into the startup commands of the GUI that pops up. Someone out there might have a working .xmodmap for your ibook/keyboard layout, and perhaps send it to you. Mine is a 'qwertz' German (Powerbook) one, so it probably won't help you much .. HTH Good luck! Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer: /ICQ: 286585973/ + + + /AIM: crashinglinux/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer Key ID: E3037113 http://keyserver.mine.nu/pks/lookup?search=0xE3037113fingerprint=on -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More on ibook
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:26:05PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Secondly: Not every window manager/Desktop environment accepts the settings in ~/.xmodmap without being told explicitly to do that. So in KDE you probably have to put a file like this (I called it xmodmap.sh) - #!/bin/sh xmodmap /home/name_of your_homedir/.xmodmap - to ~/kde/env, and make it executable (something like should say: ~/.kde/env/ Sorry Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer: /ICQ: 286585973/ + + + /AIM: crashinglinux/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer Key ID: E3037113 http://keyserver.mine.nu/pks/lookup?search=0xE3037113fingerprint=on -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More on ibook
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:26:05PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: In Gnome you're perhaps getting asked, when you log in, whether .xmodmap should be loaded by Gnome. If not, .. *and* if you don't like the default Gnome keyboard settings .. please search in the Gnome menu for something like Session settings or Startup programs (I can't tell you exactly as I don't use Gnome any more) and put something like xmodmap /home/name_of your_homedir/.xmodmap into the startup commands of the GUI that pops up. Sorry, #2 .. :) Best Regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer: /ICQ: 286585973/ + + + /AIM: crashinglinux/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer Key ID: E3037113 http://keyserver.mine.nu/pks/lookup?search=0xE3037113fingerprint=on -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: powerbook 12 freezes on MMU:EXIT, setup
Triverio M. wrote: Hey guys, thank you so much for your answers. Unfortunately I cannot test kernel 2.6.15-rc6 or rc7 since I don't have a broadband connection to the internet and can't download big files (it's 47,2 MB, too much for my 56k connection). I should have it downloaded from a friend in a week or two. I have tried booting from the Testing Etch (kernel 2.6.12) with install video=ofonly and with install video=nvidiafb:off but it did not make the trick. I'll try install video=offb and tell you guys. Thanks so much! This does not come as a surprise simply because the problem does not have to do with the framebuffer or something like that but with a really crazy bug in the kernel !!! Guy Yusko had forwarded in a previous thread on the same issue the following solution suggested by BenH (Herrenschmidt) === COMMENT OUT THE FOLLOWING LINE: pmac_tweak_clock_spreading(1); in arch/ppc/platforms/pmac_feature.c === I am just trying to compile now a 2.6.15 kernel to check if this is still necessary (it was as far as I can tell for my 2.6.15-rc7 kernel!) but now I have stuck in a different obstacle: arch/ppc/kernel/time.c: In function ‘wakeup_decrementer’: arch/ppc/kernel/time.c:125: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘last_jiffy_stamp’ arch/ppc/kernel/time.c:125: error: invalid lvalue in assignment arch/ppc/kernel/time.c: In function ‘timer_interrupt’: arch/ppc/kernel/time.c:189: error: invalid lvalue in assignment arch/ppc/kernel/time.c: In function ‘time_init’: arch/ppc/kernel/time.c:331: error: invalid lvalue in assignment make[2]: *** [arch/ppc/kernel/time.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [arch/ppc/kernel] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.15' any ideas about that Happy New Year to all (PS. this is to Sven Luther, in particular: will it be possible to get rid of this peculiar PowerBook bug in mainstream kernel-builds so that we could be able to test the latest builds of the installer ?) Emmanuel Galatoulas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 03:03:08PM +0100, Bin Zhang wrote: Hi, I don't have this problem. I am using a vanilla kernel 2.6.15 + xdm + fvwm. I have a ibook : $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 598.01 machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified memory : 512MB pmac-generation : NewWorld You probably have no r300 family of graphic chips on that machine though. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Sven Luther told: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 03:03:08PM +0100, Bin Zhang wrote: Hi, I don't have this problem. I am using a vanilla kernel 2.6.15 + xdm + fvwm. I have a ibook : $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 598.01 machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified memory : 512MB pmac-generation : NewWorld You probably have no r300 family of graphic chips on that machine though. Please read careful, the above is Bin's machine. As I mentioned before, the symptoms are on a PowerBook5,6 with an ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] which should work with r300. But anyway with or without DRI: Xorg 6.9.0 definitely freezes my powerbook. Hough. -- Learned men are the cisterns of knowledge, not the fountainheads ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On 1/8/06, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 03:03:08PM +0100, Bin Zhang wrote: Hi, I don't have this problem. I am using a vanilla kernel 2.6.15 + xdm + fvwm. I have a ibook : $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 598.01 machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified memory : 512MB pmac-generation : NewWorld You probably have no r300 family of graphic chips on that machine though. Yes. You are right. I have Radeon Mobility 9200. Thanks, Bin Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: A stupid question about windfarm
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 23:32 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear all, I installed sid's 2.6.15-1 kernel on a 8,1 powermac, and modprobed windfarm_pm81. The module loads, but noting changes. Google searches with keywords as G5 and fan control point me to the kernel patches. Am I missing some userland software ?? There are problems with building it as a module, I'd suggest building it in the kernel. Also, make sure you have i2c-keywest and i2c-pmac-smu. Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 14:13 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: Hi all, last night I upgraded to xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2. First I had to do a ldconfig by hand, because startx was complaining about missing libs. Starting X then freezes my PowerBook5,6 completely. No net, no console. So I had to hard reset the machine. I tried the following: Recreating a xorg.conf by dpkg-reconfigure - no success Switching from ati(radeon) driver to fbdev - no success, but no freeze. Switching from 24 to 16 DefaultDepth + fbdev - no success, X shows the wm splashscreen with an cross cursor similar to the twm one but shuts down after a while. Installing libgl1-mesa-dri in the hope r300 is used with radeon driver - frozen machine. Try moving the radeon DRM kernel module out of the way Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Benjamin Herrenschmidt told: [...] Try moving the radeon DRM kernel module out of the way agpgart and uninorth_agp where loaded. radeon resides in Sahara but: Machine frozen. No logs written :( Linux version 2.6.15-aragorn Elimar -- Never make anything simple and efficient when a way can be found to make it complex and wonderful ;-) pgpiV5L45Vzgf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 08:58:53PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Sven Luther told: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 03:03:08PM +0100, Bin Zhang wrote: Hi, I don't have this problem. I am using a vanilla kernel 2.6.15 + xdm + fvwm. I have a ibook : $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 599MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8003 0101) bogomips: 598.01 machine : PowerBook6,5 motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (iBook G4) pmac flags : 001b L2 cache: 512K unified memory : 512MB pmac-generation : NewWorld You probably have no r300 family of graphic chips on that machine though. Please read careful, the above is Bin's machine. As I mentioned before, the symptoms are on a PowerBook5,6 with an ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] which should work with r300. But anyway with or without DRI: Xorg 6.9.0 definitely freezes my powerbook. Sure, but Bin Zhang says he doesn't have this problem, but has he has a R200 family graphic chip only, it is not really all that conclusive, since your problem is probably with the r300 driver. Do you know if it still freezes if you disable accel, and where you able to see if the drm module is loaded even though dri is not used, since the drm module is used for 2d accel too. Also, debian-x, and/or a bug report against the X packages is probably a better way to handling this than posting (only) to debian-powerpc. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[powerpc-floppies] Help Needed : root.img too big (1489688, should be 1474560).
Hi, ... I am requesting, on behalf of the powerpc oldworld floppies users, some help to solve the problem of too big root.img. The file is 1489688 bytes, while the floppy size is 1474560, so it is 15128 bytes to huge. I had a quick look at the floppy pkg-lists, but i couldn't see anything obvious to move around to another floppy, maybe the the socket modules could move to the net-drivers floppy or something, but that is about it, and i think socket-modules is empty right now anyway. So, it would be very nice if someone with knowledge of the floppies would take a look and see where we can gain those 15128 bytes, maybe removing one of the console maps (we have usb and at, but oldworld only have adb keymaps, not sure what it maps to though), and also add the bit of code Frans mentioned the x86 floppies already have for failing if the image size is bigger than a floppy. I searched for it in config/i386, but failed to find anything that did something like this. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg-6.9.0
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 the mental interface of Sven Luther told: [...] Also, debian-x, and/or a bug report against the X packages is probably a better way to handling this than posting (only) to debian-powerpc. Again: In #345958 similar behavior is described ;) Elimar -- Never make anything simple and efficient when a way can be found to make it complex and wonderful ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fd -superformat
Eugen Paiuc a écrit : Salut, Comme les derniere images floppy pour powerpc don't fit in a normal 1440 floppy, - et comme c'est la seul metode que j'outilise pour instaler mes oldword - 3x - je me pose la question si on peux pas superformate ces disquettes a la mulinux. Par exemple superformat -s21 -t83 /dev/fd0 # making a 1743K disk dd if=mulinux.img of=/dev/fd0 superformat -s21 -t82 /dev/fd0 # making a 1722K disk dd if=mulinux.img of=/dev/fd0 http://mulinux.dotsrc.org/mu/current/mulinux-14r0.tgz Merci pour votre attention. Salutations Eugen Paiuc Hi Sven, I send you - in private - this email , few days ago, suggesting of useing of superformat in prepare floppy for 1474560 case. regards, Eugen Paiuc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fd -superformat
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 01:14:03AM +0100, Eugen Paiuc wrote: Eugen Paiuc a écrit : Salut, Comme les derniere images floppy pour powerpc don't fit in a normal 1440 floppy, - et comme c'est la seul metode que j'outilise pour instaler mes oldword - 3x - je me pose la question si on peux pas superformate ces disquettes a la mulinux. Par exemple superformat -s21 -t83 /dev/fd0 # making a 1743K disk dd if=mulinux.img of=/dev/fd0 superformat -s21 -t82 /dev/fd0 # making a 1722K disk dd if=mulinux.img of=/dev/fd0 http://mulinux.dotsrc.org/mu/current/mulinux-14r0.tgz Merci pour votre attention. Salutations Eugen Paiuc Hi Sven, I send you - in private - this email , few days ago, suggesting of useing of superformat in prepare floppy for 1474560 case. Well, if you can make it work and provide a patch, why not ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] How to disable 'rivafb_pan_display START' at boot ?
Adam Felix Bogacki wrote: How do I disable it ? video=rivafb:off -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble getting bcm43xx driver to work
I have been trying to compile more recent snapshots with a fresh 2.6.15 kernel. I have been side-tracked by a driver compile problem around an declared value: ERR include/linux/skbuff.h:1209: error: ‘KM_SKB_DATA_SOFTIRQ’ undeclared (first use in this function) /ERR KM_SKB_DATA_SOFTIRQ is in a linux header for powerpc but not ppc. After adding a sprinkling of arch=powerpc (to my kernel builds) this error has gone away although I am not sure exactly how I fixed it (too many changes and not testing often enough). I have successfully compiled the 20060107 snapshots of ieeesoftmac and bcm43xx and will test after work tonight (about 6 hours from now) as I do not have an open wireless network at my place of work. Michael Tautschnig wrote: No such logs on the AP. It just shows me attached dhcp clients and websites accessed. My iBook is not listed as an attached DHCP client. What about the current source revisions/snapshots? Do they work any better? Could you please post your current dmesg and the exact steps you performed (ifconfig, iwconfig ...) Thanks, Michael
Re: A stupid question about windfarm
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 08:35:44AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote : On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 23:32 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear all, I installed sid's 2.6.15-1 kernel on a 8,1 powermac, and modprobed windfarm_pm81. The module loads, but noting changes. Google searches with keywords as G5 and fan control point me to the kernel patches. Am I missing some userland software ?? There are problems with building it as a module, I'd suggest building it in the kernel. Also, make sure you have i2c-keywest and i2c-pmac-smu. After one hour of compilation, make-kpkg crashed saying : dpkg-gencontrol -DArchitecture=powerpc -isp \ -plinux-image-2.6.15 -P/home/charles/linux-source-2.6.15/debian/linux-image-2.6.15/ dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-2.6.15 not in control info make[1]: *** [debian/linux-image-2.6.15] Erreur 255 make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /home/charles/linux-source-2.6.15 » make: *** [binary/linux-image-2.6.15] Erreur 2 Does anybody knows how to rescue the situation ? -- Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fd -superformat
Hi there... On Jan 09 2006, Sven Luther wrote: Well, if you can make it work and provide a patch, why not ? I don't know if this still is the case, but this talk about superformat and floppies brought to my memory the fact that mtools didn't work with the swim3 driver in recent 2.6 kernels (that controller is used in the PowerMac that I have here). The last time I tried using it here was during the 2.6.11 era and things must have changed quite a bit since then... I remember that Vinai sent me a patch, but I didn't have the chance to give it a try. I remember he saying that it wasn't SMP safe, but that it solved his problems. I will re-check the situation and report back with what I see in current kernels. Regards, Rogério. P.S.: I will also test the state of mol, as soon as I get some spare time. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poll: debian/powerpc woody users ...
On Jan 06 2006, Sven Luther wrote: Does debian's 2.6.15-1-powerpc work on it ? Sorry for the lack of feedback. I will try it this week. Regards, Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poll: debian/powerpc woody users ...
Hi, Ernest. On Jan 06 2006, Ernest Demaret wrote: Op 6-jan-2006, om 3:46 heeft Rogério Brito het volgende geschreven: Humm? That's quite strange, I'd say. Which expansion cards do you actually have (if you do have one)? None whatsoever. It's an original. Ok. So, you only have a video card in one of the slots? Would you like to experiment with the kernel that I've been using? I read somewhere that there was a slight change in the 2.4 kernel in opposite to the 2.2 kernel that caused this machine to crash. That's all I know. Really funny, because, AFAIK, the machines we have are quite similar and mine works well. The only two problems that I have with this PowerMac that I inherited are: 1 - its disk is quite slow (with a maximum rate of about 2MB/s); Fast enough for his tasks. It's just generating html out of a GeneWeb database. I didn't say that your box had problems. I just said that it was slow for some of my tasks (like encoding MPEG 2 files for DVDs). 2 - it doesn't have much memory and even Linux programs are getting bigger all the time. :-( It's dedicated to one task only so it doesn't need so much memory. Right. I'd like to run a higher kernel though. It's more secure... Indeed. Vulnerabilities are being found all the time in the latest kernels and using a really ancient one is a bad thing, especially depending on the circumstances how the computer is installed. Regards, Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[solved] A stupid question about windfarm
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 08:35:44AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote : On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 23:32 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear all, I installed sid's 2.6.15-1 kernel on a 8,1 powermac, and modprobed windfarm_pm81. The module loads, but noting changes. Google searches with keywords as G5 and fan control point me to the kernel patches. Am I missing some userland software ?? There are problems with building it as a module, I'd suggest building it in the kernel. Also, make sure you have i2c-keywest and i2c-pmac-smu. Forget about my previous mail, I think what happened is that a make clean is needed if arch is changed, and I had typoed --arch powercp before restarting with --arch powerpc... The fan control seems to work well when built directly in the kernel: the machine is very silent, and the fan seems to turn a little bit faster if there is load on the processor. Thank you very much, Ben ! Shall I file a whishlist bug asking the modules to be build directly in the debian-powerpc kernel, or is it overly bureaucratic as Sven will likely read this mail ? -- Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fd -superformat
The Apple/Mac floppy disk drives were very different pieces of hardware from PC floppy drives, even though they used the same physical media. Superformat uses PC-specific hardware features. I'd be very surprised if you could get it to work with a Mac floppy drive. Bottom line is that the OldWorld Mac install floppies are hard limited at the 1440KB size, and there is no way 'round it. Rick On Jan 8, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Eugen Paiuc wrote: Eugen Paiuc a écrit : Salut, Comme les derniere images floppy pour powerpc don't fit in a normal 1440 floppy, - et comme c'est la seul metode que j'outilise pour instaler mes oldword - 3x - je me pose la question si on peux pas superformate ces disquettes a la mulinux. Par exemple superformat -s21 -t83 /dev/fd0 # making a 1743K disk dd if=mulinux.img of=/dev/fd0 superformat -s21 -t82 /dev/fd0 # making a 1722K disk dd if=mulinux.img of=/dev/fd0 http://mulinux.dotsrc.org/mu/current/mulinux-14r0.tgz Merci pour votre attention. Salutations Eugen Paiuc Hi Sven, I send you - in private - this email , few days ago, suggesting of useing of superformat in prepare floppy for 1474560 case. regards, Eugen Paiuc
