Re: hfsprogs: Removal of sys/sysctl.h

2020-11-10 Thread Stan Johnson
On 11/9/20 11:45 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 11/10/20 4:51 AM, Stan Johnson wrote: Thanks for creating the 9 Nov 2020 CD. I was able to use that CD to install Debian SID on a PPC Cube (G4) from an external Firewire CD drive

Re: OT: Huge Right to Repair Win for Consumers

2021-06-10 Thread Stan Johnson
On 6/9/21 10:53 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 6/10/21 2:08 AM, Paul Wise wrote: >>> The report and its recommendations may provide a means >>> to pierce the veil of closed platforms, like closed-sourced firmware. >> >> It seems unlikely to me that we will ever see a "Right to Repair"

Re: ppc-64 (powermac g5) question

2021-08-20 Thread Stan Johnson
: > Hello Stan! > > On 8/20/21 10:51 PM, Stan Johnson wrote: >> I'm trying to install Debian SID on a Power Mac G5 system using the Apr >> 2021 CD. >> >> After installing a basic text-only system, I replaced systemd with >> sysvinit-core. However, most things t

Re: Debian SID kernel doesn't boot on PowerBook 3400c

2021-07-31 Thread Stan Johnson
Hi Christophe, On 7/31/21 9:58 AM, Christophe Leroy wrote: > Stan Johnson a écrit : > >> Hello, >> >> The current Debian SID kernel will not boot on a PowerBook 3400c running >> the latest version of Debian SID. If booted using the BootX extension, &

Re: X stopped working with 5.14 on iBook

2021-10-09 Thread Stan Johnson
On 10/8/21 11:10 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Stan! > > On 10/8/21 18:49, Stan Johnson wrote: >> ... >> $ ls -l vmlinux >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 johnson johnson 208626696 Oct 8 09:03 vmlinux > ... > That is the unstripped, uncompressed image. You can eithe

Re: X stopped working with 5.14 on iBook

2021-10-09 Thread Stan Johnson
On 10/9/21 11:41 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello Stan! > > On 10/9/21 19:00, Stan Johnson wrote: >> thanks, stripping vmlinux was the step I was missing. > > ... > >> Starting with the kernel source linux-source-5.14.tar.xz installed from &g

Re: X stopped working with 5.14 on iBook

2021-10-06 Thread Stan Johnson
On 10/6/21 7:39 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi Stan, > > On 2021-10-06 16:59:36 +0000 Stan Johnson wrote: > > >> I can confirm that X is not working on a PowerPC G4 Cube with the stock >> Debian kernel "vmlinux-5.14.0-2-powerpc". X does work with the sto

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images 2021-09-21

2021-09-24 Thread Stan Johnson
Rick, On 9/24/21 4:00 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021, at 12:47 AM, Efraim Flashner wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 11:30:26PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> On 9/23/21 23:08, kristoffer...@tuta.io wrote: I also made a fresh installation on another

Re: X stopped working with 5.14 on iBook

2021-10-22 Thread Stan Johnson
On 10/14/21 9:21 PM, Stan Johnson wrote: > ... > Debian's 5.10.0-8 config file works (as expected) with Debian's 5.10.0-8 > kernel source. > ... > X works with 5.14 using a tuned config file derived from 5.13 testing. > ... Update: The issue originally reported by Riccardo

X Display Problem on G3 Series PowerBook (Wallstreet)

2021-07-18 Thread Stan Johnson
ions). Graphics (Xorg, wdm and xfce) work in Debian 7.8 with kernel 5.13.2. So I'm not sure whether I'm looking for a kernel issue or an Xorg (or wdm) issue, so I haven't run a git bisect yet. thanks for any suggestions -Stan Johnson

Re: systemd being pulled in during dist-upgrade

2022-02-21 Thread Stan Johnson
On 2/21/22 4:57 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > >> On Feb 21, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: >> >> Small update... >> >> Well, looks like these two dependencies are not the cause. But checking >> the differences between the "fwupd" package in buster ([2]) and bullseye >>

Re: systemd being pulled in during dist-upgrade

2022-02-20 Thread Stan Johnson
On 2/20/22 12:55 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 2/20/22 20:32, Stan Johnson wrote: >>> That's an or-condition, i.e. cron or anacron or cron-daemon or systemd-sysv, >>> see also the debian/control file of the logrotate package [1]. >> >> I do have cron,

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images

2022-03-25 Thread Stan Johnson
Correction: The Pismo has 1 GiB memory. On 3/25/22 9:06 PM, Stan Johnson wrote: > On 3/18/22 11:59 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I have created the first set of installation images in 2022, these are >> available at the usual location in [1]. >

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images

2022-03-25 Thread Stan Johnson
RUB on the Apple_Bootstrap partition directly (e.g. after step 3, I tried "grub-install /dev/sda2"). The error message was that the partition was not a partition of type PReP. Please let me know of anything else that I could try. thanks -Stan Johnson

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images

2022-03-26 Thread Stan Johnson
On 3/26/22 2:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > On 3/26/22 04:06, Stan Johnson wrote: >> My installation attempt using CD [2] above on a PowerBook G3 Pismo (500 >> MHz; 2 GiB memory) failed. >> >> 1) I started with a blank 120 GB disk.

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images

2022-03-26 Thread Stan Johnson
On 3/26/22 10:58 AM, Ken Cunningham wrote: > I think that people are used to installing linux on PPC Macs being very > very very difficult, with many arcane manual steps and many hours needed > on every walkthru available anywhere on the internet. Like everything else, installing GNU/Linux on PPC

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images

2022-03-26 Thread Stan Johnson
On 3/26/22 9:04 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > ... > On 3/26/22 15:57, Stan Johnson wrote: >> ... I used the image from your 18 Mar 2022 message: >> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-03-18/non-free/ > > That image doesn't work. Use t

Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images

2022-03-26 Thread Stan Johnson
On 3/26/22 2:07 PM, Stan Johnson wrote: > ... > I'll simply note whether multiboot works on the Pismo > ... Starting with this disk layout on the Pismo (as reported by pdisk in Mac OS X Tiger): - pismo:~ root# pdisk -l Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/d

GRUB Multiboot

2022-03-28 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello, I've confirmed that the version of GRUB (2.06-2) from the 24 Mar 2022 powerpc installation CD can be used to boot other GNU/Linux operating systems on a PowerBook Pismo (Gentoo and Void both work). I also tried many different options in the grub.cfg file in an attempt to get Mac OS and

Re: Please test Firefox on ppc64

2023-09-03 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello Adrian, On 8/31/23 3:06 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi! > > Thanks to the efforts of Debian's Firefox maintainer, the Firefox package > is building again on ppc64 (big-endian) the first time in a long period. > > However, we don't know whether Firefox actually works on 64-bit

Re: Please test Firefox on ppc64

2023-09-03 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello Carsten, On 9/3/23 11:40 AM, Carsten Jacobi wrote: > ... I'm reluctant > on "just trying out the new version", I'm not sure whether I'll be able > to get back to the still working version in case the new one doesn't > run and just crashes. > ... You could create a backup before you install

Re: Crowdfunding a small but important powerpc bugfix

2023-10-11 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello, Please post a link that indicates whether the GHC Haskell Compiler license is compatible with the GPL. I haven't been able to find anything online regarding compatibility. I would be interested in any license issues before learning more about this compiler. The license appears to allow

Disk ordering on a PowerMac MDD G4

2023-10-13 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello, Recent kernels (starting around 6.4) have made it progressively more difficult to predict disk ordering on the PowerMac MDD G4. My system has four disks, two on the 100 MHz bus and two on the 66 MHz bus: 100 MHz bus: master - should be sda slave - should be sdb, often is seen as

Re: Kernel Panic 6.5.0-1 PPC

2023-09-29 Thread Stan Johnson
here may be an issue with "CONFIG_KFENCE", which seem to be expanded in vmlinux-6.5.0-1-powerpc*. I haven't tried the latest Debian kernel on any other PowerMac systems, though I can check on G3 and G5 if that would be useful. -Stan Johnson

Re: Kernel Panic 6.5.0-1 PPC

2023-10-01 Thread Stan Johnson
attached to this message as "config-test.xz"). Note that I'm not able to create Debian's powerpc kernel and modules using the config files that are distributed in /boot (if anyone knows the location of the config files that Debian uses to create its powerpc kernels and modules, please post

Re: Kernel Panic 6.5.0-1 PPC

2023-10-01 Thread Stan Johnson
Hi Adrian, On 10/1/23 2:31 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > ... > You can build a kernel with Debian's configuration. You just have to disable > the kernel config options CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEY and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY. > ... I think the problem with the references to trusted keys has

Re: Disk ordering on a PowerMac MDD G4

2023-10-14 Thread Stan Johnson
Sorry, it was my fault -- I was using the wrong initrd. Everything is now working as expected. On 10/13/23 9:49 AM, Stan Johnson wrote: > Hello, > > Recent kernels (starting around 6.4) have made it progressively more > difficult to predict disk ordering on the PowerMac MDD G4. M

SSH, Telnet and FTP

2022-06-11 Thread Stan Johnson
d ftp over already-secure internal networks. -Stan Johnson

PowerMac G5 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200

2023-04-09 Thread Stan Johnson
installations on some PowerMac G5 systems. thanks -Stan Johnson

Support for NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 in PowerMac G5

2023-04-10 Thread Stan Johnson
Package: src:linux Version: 6.1.0-7-powerpc64 Please add support in future Debian powerpc64 kernels for the NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 graphics card for PowerMac G5. The applicable option appears to be CONFIG_FB_RIVA=y or CONFIG_FB_RIVA=m. Adding ONFIG_FB_RIVA will allow testing of default Debian

Re: Installer doesn't find the mirrors

2023-05-02 Thread Stan Johnson
Hi Adrian, On 5/2/23 7:24 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > ... > > The former issue could be resolved if someone could find out how to boot > a PowerPC Mac from a FAT32 boot partition. It's supposed to work but I never > verified that. > > If someone could test that, I can implement that

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-29 Thread Stan Johnson
On 5/28/23 3:36 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > One more (quite long) follow-up: (sorry for the length!) > > On 05/27 2023 20:05, Stan Johnson wrote: >> The partition should be Apple_Bootstrap, type Apple_Bootstrap. That way >> it's HFS but not normally accessed via

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-30 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello Ben, On 5/30/23 7:16 AM, Ben Westover wrote: > Hello, > > On May 30, 2023 6:45:03 AM EDT, Linux User #330250 > wrote: >>> The last time I installed Debian SID with GRUB on a PowerBook Pismo, the >>> Apple_Bootstrap partition was mounted as /boot/grub (it might have been >>> /boot, I

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-06-01 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello Ben, On 5/31/23 10:55 PM, Ben Westover wrote: > On 5/31/23 10:20 AM, Ben Westover wrote: >> ... instead of trying to integrate chainloading functionality >> into GRUB itself, we could just set a similar script to run before GRUB >> that allows you to make that selection. > > I have just

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-30 Thread Stan Johnson
On 5/30/23 10:42 AM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > On 05/30 2023 17:13 Stan Johnson wrote: >> On 5/30/23 7:16 AM, Ben Westover wrote: >>> The GRUB Manual [1] says that the PPC port of GRUB only supports >>> booting Linux at the moment. AFAIK booting macOS with GRUB on x86

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-06-02 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello, On 6/1/23 11:56 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > On 06/02 2023 06:25 Ben Westover wrote: >> It turns out that adding alone is not enough since it refers to >> only the drive and not the partition along with it. : >> is what was actually needed. Fixed script is attached. > > > Wow.

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-27 Thread Stan Johnson
On 5/27/23 10:34 AM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > ... > > It seems, the only real convenient way to go remains HFS or HFS+. Which > got me thinking... The partition should be Apple_Bootstrap, type Apple_Bootstrap. That way it's HFS but not normally accessed via Mac OS X. > We could make a

Debian SID PowerBook Pismo Installation

2023-05-30 Thread Stan Johnson
I tested a basic (text-only) installation on a PowerBook G3 Pismo, using the following ISO: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2023-05-28/debian-12.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso The installer created these default partitions (using the entire disk): # mac-fdisk -l /dev/sda #

Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good

2023-05-10 Thread Stan Johnson
Hi Adrian, On 5/10/23 3:36 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 11:25 +0200, Frank Scheiner wrote: >> On 10.05.23 10:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> [...] >>> If we could get Apple PowerMac machines to boot from a FAT filesystem, the >>> licensing >>>

Re: Mate Desktop crashes

2024-01-23 Thread Stan Johnson
Hello Adrian and Christoph, On 1/23/24 1:43 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello Christoph, > > On Tue, 2024-01-23 at 21:21 +0100, Christoph wrote: >> here the log files for Xorg.0.log, .xsession-errors and dmesg command. There >> seem to be a lot of errors in it that indicate a bug with

X-Windows Issues on PPC G4 MDD

2024-01-20 Thread Stan Johnson
ade on 15 Oct 2023 to restore X-Windows functionality. thanks for any suggestions or recommendations -Stan Johnson

Fwd: X-Windows on PPC in Debian SID

2024-01-21 Thread Stan Johnson
FYI, it appears to be a dependency issue, not directly caused by systemd. Forwarded Message Subject: Re: X-Windows on PPC in Debian SID Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 17:14:11 -0700 From: Stan Johnson To: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, Colin Watson Hi Colin, On 1/21/24 3:22 PM, Stan

Re: Fwd: X-Windows on PPC in Debian SID

2024-01-30 Thread Stan Johnson
restored the correct SMP kernel and modules, and everything is working. -Stan - On 1/22/24 8:24 AM, Stan Johnson wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > Please see the last paragrraph of the message; it may provide a clue for > ppc (and probably ppc64). > > Mr. Simon McVittie seems to be sa

Fwd: X-Windows on PPC in Debian SID

2024-01-22 Thread Stan Johnson
-de...@lists.debian.org On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 at 17:14:11 -0700, Stan Johnson wrote: > The bottom line is that there appears to be a dependency issue in Debian > SID at the moment You can't *necessarily* draw this conclusion from a failure to upgrade. You are using powerpc, which is a