Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-12-01 Thread Brian Potkin
On Fri 25 Nov 2016 at 13:10:20 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Digging history, the 1.0.2-1 changelog entry (from 17 years ago) has: > > Created "lpadmin" group and set SystemGroup to this. This will > > fix problems with CUPS not being usable initially. As soon as > > bug #50620 gets fixed

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-29 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 29/11/16 a les 19:16, Brian Potkin ha escrit: > On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 08:17:32 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote: > >> Does "gnome-control-center printers" perform calls as root without >> requiring "unlock" to user? > > g-c-c printers can do nothing in its default state without the user > having th

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-29 Thread Till Kamppeter
On 11/29/2016 04:25 PM, Brian Potkin wrote: Or use the CUPS API for cancelling jobs. s-c-p probably does it because there no problem with this when it uses c-p-h. This would mean that the bug report has to be moved from CUPS to GNOME as the package having to get fixed? Till

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-29 Thread Brian Potkin
On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 08:17:32 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le lundi, 28 novembre 2016, 17.07:14 h CET Till Kamppeter a écrit : > > On 11/28/2016 03:29 PM, Brian Potkin wrote: > > > I added root to SystemGroup in cups-files and restarted cups. A queue > > > was paused with cupsdisable. Fro

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-29 Thread Brian Potkin
On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 08:17:32 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote: > Does "gnome-control-center printers" perform calls as root without > requiring "unlock" to user? g-c-c printers can do nothing in its default state without the user having the root password (or using sudo, I suppose) to unlock the dialo

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-28 Thread Narcis Garcia
Does "gnome-control-center printers" perform calls as root without requiring "unlock" to user? __ I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at lists.debian.org archives. El 28/11/16 a les 21:49, Brian Potkin ha escrit: > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-28 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 28 novembre 2016, 17.07:14 h CET Till Kamppeter a écrit : > On 11/28/2016 03:29 PM, Brian Potkin wrote: > > I added root to SystemGroup in cups-files and restarted cups. A queue > > was paused with cupsdisable. From g-c-c it was possible to cancel the > > job without unlocking the printin

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-28 Thread Brian Potkin
On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:40:55 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote: > How is this related to non-root users capability to cancel jobs through > "gnome-control-center printers" ? Intimately. -- Brian.

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-28 Thread Narcis Garcia
How is this related to non-root users capability to cancel jobs through "gnome-control-center printers" ? __ I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at lists.debian.org archives. El 28/11/16 a les 18:29, Brian Potkin ha escrit: > On Fri 25 Nov

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-28 Thread Till Kamppeter
On 11/28/2016 03:29 PM, Brian Potkin wrote: To continue this train of thought and hopefully add something of substance I added root to SystemGroup in cups-files and restarted cups. A queue was paused with cupsdisable. From g-c-c it was possible to cancel the job without unlocking the printing di

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-28 Thread Brian Potkin
On Fri 25 Nov 2016 at 15:48:31 +, Brian Potkin wrote: > On Fri 25 Nov 2016 at 13:35:26 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote: > > > In my opinion, desktop printers tools should trigger actions as same > > desktop user account. > > lpadmin group ever should be allowed on all related features. > > If roo

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-26 Thread Brian Potkin
On Fri 25 Nov 2016 at 13:10:20 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Hi there Till, > > Le jeudi, 24 novembre 2016, 16.33:40 h CET Till Kamppeter a écrit : > > there is a long-standing bug report in Ubuntu (…) about that one cannot stop > > or delete print jobs from the "Printers" section of GNOME

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-25 Thread Brian Potkin
On Fri 25 Nov 2016 at 13:35:26 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote: > In my opinion, desktop printers tools should trigger actions as same > desktop user account. > lpadmin group ever should be allowed on all related features. If root is added to SystemGroup what happens to the "fine-grained privileges" a

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-25 Thread Narcis Garcia
In my opinion, desktop printers tools should trigger actions as same desktop user account. lpadmin group ever should be allowed on all related features. __ I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at lists.debian.org archives. El 25/11/16 a les

Re: CUPS: Add root to system-groups to make GNOME's print functionality work correctly?

2016-11-25 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi there Till, Le jeudi, 24 novembre 2016, 16.33:40 h CET Till Kamppeter a écrit : > there is a long-standing bug report in Ubuntu (…) about that one cannot stop > or delete print jobs from the "Printers" section of GNOME Control Center. > > The trivial-looking fix is to add root to the system gr