Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Remember, you're the idiot who started the polemic ... bullshit.
If they would really care ... lunacy that I was mimicking. That
is unacceptable behaviour and I ask you to correct it.
I really don't think that
On 11 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt told this:
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Plus sponsoring is a nice way to have experienced people look at
what a applicant is doing. If done seriously sponsoring is almost
as much work as packaging a package on your own,
But only very
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 02:09 +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 06:59:44PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
For 2.2, I'd recommend that NM's maintain a page about them on
wiki.d.org (my current applicant did that, and I found that rather
useful). In a glance you can see
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
Isn't this almost equivalent of giving them their Account directly
and ask them to get any new package reviewed by someone else?
(As there is nothing to avoid their build rules or maintainer scripts to
do dangerous stuff, so from the risk-view this
Le Mer 12 Avril 2006 08:34, Benjamin Mesing a écrit :
I would strongly suggest, allowing to restrict access to such a site
to DDs. This is because not everyone feels comfortable having
personal information (like your specific view on free software)
world-accessable. Debian developers need to
Hi Kevin,
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Kevin Mark wrote:
Hi Margarita,
tracking contributions:
when someone (like a non-debian package maintainer or a NM) asks for
something to be sponsored, is there a mailing list or location (like on
wiki.d.o/$NAME) that this is noted?
There's no centralized
Hi,
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
perhaps able to fix most of the problems. Please note that this is *my*
opinion, not something decided by the NM team.
Thanks for starting this discussion !
Quite a lot of applicants are frustrated by the NM process. The reason
for this
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 04:07:47PM -0300, Roberto-cpd wrote:
Baixei as imagens .iso do site ftp://linorg.usp.br/iso/debian aparentemente
sem problemas.
As imagens 7 e 8 est?o como .iso.tmp e vou tentar recuperar atraves do
cygwim + rsync.
As imagens 1,5 e 9 est?o com o md5sum incorretos,
* Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060412 08:39]:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
Isn't this almost equivalent of giving them their Account directly
and ask them to get any new package reviewed by someone else?
(As there is nothing to avoid their build rules or maintainer
On 10622 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
And the bigger problem is that people who are ready to become DD may be
waiting on the AM assignation list while people who are not ready are
currently learning with the help of an AM whose job should not be to play
the sponsor of the applicant
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:25:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Could you report such sponsors, so we may take their
sponsorship privileges away?
There's no technical way to do this (yet), as far as I can see.
Michael
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Michael Banck
Debian Developer
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[ Why the crosspost ? I responded only on -project since that where's Marc
pointed the mail followup to ]
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
On 10622 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
And the bigger problem is that people who are ready to become DD may be
waiting on the AM
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
That's true except that I hope that someone won't get upload rights after
their
very first sponsored uploads. The DD should give upload rights to the
contributor
*only* after several sponsored upload that went well.
That's only true as
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 11:46:31AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Documenting stuff in a wiki-like page may help *a little bit* prior to
the AM assignment, but not very much. And about nothing after that, as
the AM already asks (if he uses my templates or something based on that)
for the
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 12:11]:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:25:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Could you report such sponsors, so we may take their
sponsorship privileges away?
There's no technical way to do this (yet), as far as I can see.
There is - if
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:43:22PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 12:11]:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:25:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Could you report such sponsors, so we may take their
sponsorship privileges away?
There's no
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 14:41]:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:43:22PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Michael Banck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060412 12:11]:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:25:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Could you report such sponsors, so we may take
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:43:48AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Le Mer 12 Avril 2006 08:34, Benjamin Mesing a écrit :
I would strongly suggest, allowing to restrict access to such a site
to DDs. This is because not everyone feels comfortable having
personal information (like your specific
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1. Current situation
Thank you for summarising.
[...] and the excellent introduction given in the
talk Hanna Wallach, Moray Allan and Dafydd Harries held last year [2].
[2] http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~hmw26/publications/debconf5.pdf
I'll refer to this
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- -project,
Sorry for the portuguese, Roberto is asking about how he can
fix some images that are with incorrect MD5 but he doesn't want to
download everything again. I'm pointing him to d-user-portuguese and
explaining what -project is
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 02:03:10PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Applicants with fast/free internet connections, local mirrors and so
on can do the bookwork needed for the template questions without much
pain. A lot of the questions repeatedly confirm an ability to look
stuff up and restate it,
* Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060412 12:33]:
I believe many people would be happy with the right to upload only some
specific packages. I know for example a TeX expert who'd like to
maintaine some TeX-related packages but who doesn't want to become full DD
because he is not interested
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
* Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060412 12:33]:
I believe many people would be happy with the right to upload only some
specific packages. I know for example a TeX expert who'd like to
maintaine some TeX-related packages but who doesn't want
Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Le Mar 11 Avril 2006 18:40, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit :
I'd like to implement the proposals I made in (2.1) and (2.2) as fast
as possible, especially applying the rules in (2.2) to people already
in the queue waiting for an AM.
I agree both
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
quote who=Don Armstrong date=Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 12:49:08PM -0700
I don't think there's any way to make that easier until we have
more people who fit into those positions wanting to become DDs.
It's a bit more complex than that. You, for
Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
I am not sure 6 months of sustained contributions is really necessary, I
think several months or sustained contributions are alright, where
both measures are up for interpretation depending on the type, quality
and quantity of the contributions.
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Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt:
For package maintainers, an intensive package check follows. If
everything went fine, these people get upload permissions for *these*
packages (and nothing else). If they want to adopt new packages, their
AM does a package-check once and
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Well, the idea has been proposed some times now. It has its advantages,
but there are still some problems - updating a page on wiki.d.o takes
time [1], so they tend to become outdated.
If it becomes outdated, then the applicant has to update
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 4/11/06, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(...)
3. Conclusions
==
(..)
I'd like to implement the proposals I made in (2.1) and (2.2) as fast as
possible, especially applying the rules in (2.2) to people already in the
Heya,
Benjamin Mesing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2.3 Separate upload permissions, system accounts and voting rights
Unless you are not planning to have long term second class
developers (i.e. developers with restricted rights), I don't think it
is a good idea. The additional overhead IMO is
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 11 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt told this:
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Plus sponsoring is a nice way to have experienced people look at
what a applicant is doing. If done seriously sponsoring is almost
as much work as
Hello
I would strongly suggest, allowing to restrict access to such a site
to DDs. This is because not everyone feels comfortable having
personal information (like your specific view on free software)
world-accessable. Debian developers need to know, since you are about
to become part
Dear DPL,
I am currently a user of Slackware GNU/Linux distribution and am now
planning to switch to Debian GNU/Linux. I am aware that there are
many CD vendors from whom I can purchase the distribution.
My question is this. Why doesn't Debian GNU/Linux sell distribution
CDs? What about
(Please CC me on replies as I'm not subscribing the list.)
I'm currently at the prospective NM stage, trying to get my work into
Debian. That should give quite a different view from Marc's on the
whole subject... Of course, I may say stupid things because of my lack
of experience with the NM
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 12:32:54PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I don't think the DM concept should end the sponsorship idea. But I do
like to have a clear indication in the changelog of who sponsored who.
It's a pain to have to use gpg to discover who sponsored the upload.
On 12 Apr 2006, Raphael Hertzog spake thusly:
Except when you have a new upstream version where you should
download the upstream tarball and check that it's the same that has
been submitted by the applicant... who does that every time ?
I do, just as I do for every one of my own
On 12 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt verbalised:
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 11 Apr 2006, Marc Brockschmidt told this:
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Plus sponsoring is a nice way to have experienced people look at
what a applicant is doing. If done
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