Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-11 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 11:30:33AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The slight inaccessibility in the bug reporting facilies is an appropriate part of our approach to improving bug report quality. I don't think this logically follows.. I don't see how inaccessibility of the BTS would necessarily

DebConf 7 location

2006-07-11 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all, After a long meeting on #debconf-team last night, it has been decided by consensus that DebConf7 will be held in Edinburgh, UK. I would like to take this opportunity to thank both teams for their hard work, and exceptional presentation of the venues, and to thank all those who

Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Adam McKenna writes (Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system): I don't think this logically follows.. I don't see how inaccessibility of the BTS would necessarily result in better quality bug reports. If you really think this, please go and look at the bug reports filed against Ubuntu in

Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 05:16:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Adam McKenna writes (Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system): Frustrating the user could lead to an even poorer quality bug report than would have been given in the first place. It works because it acts as a filter.

Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Matt Zimmerman wrote: We want users who don't know how to write a good bug report to become users who do, not get discouraged and not contribute at all. Those who get discouraged so fast they won't even send an email directly to the maintainer (yes, users do figure out how

Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-11 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 05:16:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: If you really think this, please go and look at the bug reports filed against Ubuntu in the Launchpad bugtracker. For example, compare http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=apt with

Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Adam McKenna wrote: The amount of noise in the system is really a secondary concern if it leads to bugs getting reported faster and fixed faster. I can state that noise in the BTS is a hindrance to my work, and causes less bugs to be triaged and/or fixed by myself when I

Re: BSP Marathon (or: helping releasing etch in-time)

2006-07-11 Thread Kurt Gramlich
* Martin Zobel-Helas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060529 23:37]: Hi, [ Please send follow-ups to -project, headers set accordingly ] As you should all know, we had some bug squashing parties before the release of Debian 3.1 sarge. These were quite effective, especially when they were centered

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TISR Issue # 12

2006-07-11 Thread TSCF Secretary-General
Dear readers, colleagues, and partners from various institutions, This is to inform you that the 12th issue of The International Scope Review has been published on Saturday 06-10-2006, 23:43 GMT. We as a Review have 8 years of existence now. The new editorial, Referring Governments to