On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
Ian said he'll send over his notes, but I'm impatient so I'll have a go :)
Thanks for your impatience. :)
The issues that were touched included:
I found quite similar things in my private log - hoping to review the
recording later to sort out
Hi,
(you could have started a new thread :-))
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
* The initial social committee will have to combine two aspects - one is
the need to have a body that would judge on disputes (this would be the
committee as such), and the other is the need to
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:15:25AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
* Someone proposed that the leader makes the initial list of members which
would then be voted upon, not sure; I would maintain my position that
people should be nominating themselves, rather than the leader naming
them -
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
I have an issue with the leader deciding on the composition of the
committee, in general. I think it could easily create the impression
that they are his cronies, and we have to avoid that.
You are right here - I just wanted to enhance the suggestion
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
I was happy to note that there wasn't really any discussion as to whether
there should be such a thing - the implicit consensus was that we do need
something, it's just that we need to figure out exactly what and how.
Something is needed, but I'm
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, MJ Ray wrote:
If it's all voting-derived, how can we assure there will be any
debian-minority views represented on soc-ctte at any time?
What exact minority do you have in mind?
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MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I feel we're really missing most sorely list-admin teams who will take
care of the social fabric of one list each and are empowered to make
limited short-term changes to preserve it, including updating the list
info pages and small posting bans. We should
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 01:02:53PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I feel we're really missing most sorely list-admin teams who will take
care of the social fabric of one list each and are empowered to make
limited short-term changes to preserve it, including
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is the difference between 'a list admin' and 'a small list admin
team' in this situation?
Nothing, really, I just believe in teams in volunteer work, because
then it's more likely that somebody in the team has the time and the
energy to do what's
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, MJ Ray wrote:
If it's all voting-derived, how can we assure there will be any
debian-minority views represented on soc-ctte at any time?
What exact minority do you have in mind?
No particular one, but including: racial or ethnic
Vorrei sapere se esiste una versione linux per ipovedenti e non
vedenti.Grazie.
debian-project: He is asking for information regarding Debian
accessibility for the visually impaired, and I'm sending him to
debian-italian.
Em Ter, 2007-06-26 às 16:29 +0200, Claudio Gianelle escreveu:
Vorrei sapere se esiste una versione linux per ipovedenti e non
vedenti.Grazie.
Purtroppo
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:19:46AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
* The communication of soc-ctte members with people about their
behaviour which might eventually become a matter of committee
deliberation should be kept reasonably private, to prevent
unnecessary escalation
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 05:19:27PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:19:46AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
* The communication of soc-ctte members with people about their
behaviour which might eventually become a matter of committee
deliberation should be kept
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:44:28AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
even if I'm not perfectly decided whether it might be just practical
because I doubt that there will be enough cronies in the group of
volunteers.
Like with the cabal - it's not a matter of if they will be there, but
a matter of
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:48:51AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
I feel we're really missing most sorely list-admin teams who will take
care of the social fabric of one list each and are empowered to make
limited short-term changes to preserve it, including updating the list
info pages and small
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, there is hopefully no problem to find a replacement. My point was
that we should explicitely name those positions who should not be a member
of the soc-ctte.
Okay.
Interestingly enough, we don't have similar provisions in the constitution
(§6.2)
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 05:19:27PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:19:46AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
The biggest decisions need to be publicly documented however. I don't
think we've clearly drawn the line here. I'm also unsure if it's important
to have a clear
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
I think that the internal discussions should be kept private to the
soc-ctte at least as long as no decision is made. As decisions made
by the comitee will probably quite often involve social behaviour of
DDs I think it's problematic if all DDs can
On Tuesday 26 June 2007 15:33, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
After a decision is made I think it's less problematic to make the
discussion available to all DDs. But still there is the problem, that
offending behaviour would be exposed to all DDs.
The committee's deliberations should be solely based
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 08:54:51PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
The Debian Social Contract 1.0 was ratified on July 5, 1997. That's ten
years ago, about ten days from now. Anybody else interested in
celebrating this a bit? What would be an appropriate way?
By spending the day arguing about
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:12:51 -0700
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 08:54:51PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
The Debian Social Contract 1.0 was ratified on July 5, 1997. That's
ten years ago, about ten days from now. Anybody else interested in
celebrating this
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 05:12:51PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 08:54:51PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
The Debian Social Contract 1.0 was ratified on July 5, 1997. That's ten
years ago, about ten days from now. Anybody else interested in
celebrating this a bit? What
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