Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:14:06AM -0300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: After that, we can have a discussion about: - Should people be encouraged to commit the changes they make in an NMU to the package's Vcs? - Should people be encouraged to commit any

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:20:46AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: How about just sneak in a recommendation to check debian/README.Source for any hints about specific packaging routines to be aware of? Nice idea, as it would address any other potential hints from maintainers to NMUers, possibly

Direct commits to packages' VCS (Was: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-08-12 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 12/08/08 at 08:20 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:14:06AM -0300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: After that, we can have a discussion about: - Should people be encouraged to commit the changes they make in an NMU to the package's Vcs? - Should people be encouraged to

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-12 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I'm interested both in ACKs and suggestions for changes. I second the proposal (I like better if you include the Jonas proposal about README.source). ciao cate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Direct commits to packages' VCS (Was: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-08-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:09:09AM -0300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 12/08/08 at 08:20 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:14:06AM -0300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: After that, we can have a discussion about: - Should people be

objecting to +nmuX syntax (was DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review))

2008-08-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Lucas Nussbaum [Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:28:53 -0300]: The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, I already objected to this in the past, and I'm loudly objecting again now. Some people on IRC shared this objection; I'm opening a subthread to see if I'm alone on this, or

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Lucas Nussbaum [Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:28:53 -0300]: Hi, these are some other, mostly minor bits: The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, where X is a counter starting at 1. If the last upload was also an NMU, the counter should be increased. For example, if

Re: objecting to +nmuX syntax (was DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review))

2008-08-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:37:17PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, I already objected to this in the past, and I'm loudly objecting again now. Some people on IRC shared this objection; I'm opening a subthread to see if I'm alone

Re: objecting to +nmuX syntax

2008-08-12 Thread Romain Francoise
Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I already objected to this in the past, and I'm loudly objecting again now. Some people on IRC shared this objection; I'm opening a subthread to see if I'm alone on this, or what. In case anyone's interested in the context, the thread dato's referring

Re: Direct commits to packages' VCS (Was: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads)

2008-08-12 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 12/08/08 at 12:25 -0300, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:09:09AM -0300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: However, I don't think that it's the main purpose of debian/README.source (which is to document how to get the source of the package ready for editing). Whether to

Re: objecting to +nmuX syntax (was DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review))

2008-08-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Stefano Zacchiroli [Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:18:40 -0300]: In addition, it has the advantage of being clearer, And the disadvantage of being less compact. Who do we /need/ to make it clearer for? Who that wouldn't be familiar with the old syntax could /benefit/ from this explicitness? (In the old

Re: objecting to +nmuX syntax (was DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review))

2008-08-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Lucas Nussbaum [Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:28:53 -0300]: The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, I already objected to this in the past, and I'm loudly objecting again now. Some people on IRC shared this objection; I'm

Re: objecting to +nmuX syntax (was DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review))

2008-08-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:33:47PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: And the disadvantage of being less compact. len('1.2.3-1+nmu1') - len('1.2.3-1.1') = 3 len('1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1') - len('1.2.3-1') = 17 are we really discussing the disadvantages of *3* extra characters when we have version

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-12 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 12/08/08 at 20:44 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Lucas Nussbaum [Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:28:53 -0300]: Hi, these are some other, mostly minor bits: The version must be the version of the last upload, plus +nmuX, where X is a counter starting at 1. If the last upload was also an

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:16:56PM -0300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: The whole developers-reference is written in a non-gender-neutral manner. If there's consensus that it's a good idea, I would prefer if the whole devref was converted at once, instead of converting only this part. Any

Re: DEP1: Non Maintainer Uploads (final call for review)

2008-08-12 Thread Ben Finney
Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:16:56PM -0300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: The whole developers-reference is written in a non-gender-neutral manner. If there's consensus that it's a good idea, I would prefer if the whole devref was converted at once,