Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Jorge Gonçalves
Hello! First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could remain

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2010-05-06 at 09:15 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I recently had to install Debian lenny on a HP ProLiant machine, which required bnx2 firmware for the network controller. Just downloaded the firmware .deb from packages.d.o, stuck it on a FAT32 formatted USB stick and everything worked

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2010-05-06 at 03:17 -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote: First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. Maybe use dummy packages, or

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote: Hello! First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. Maybe use

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Dotan Cohen
2010/5/6 Jorge Gonçalves jmg.corr...@gmail.com: Hello! First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. Maybe use dummy packages, or

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yves-Alexis Perez kirjoitti: On jeu., 2010-05-06 at 09:15 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I recently had to install Debian lenny on a HP ProLiant machine, which required bnx2 firmware for the network controller. Just downloaded the firmware .deb from

Draft of the Final version of DMUP version 1.1.2

2010-05-06 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, find attached the final draft of the new DMUP version 1.1.2 to be published on debian-devel-annou...@l.d.o on Sunday, May 9th, which would mean the new version then would become effective on July 4th, 2010. A full log of changes can be found at [1] and the patch-view can be found at [2].

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Arto Jantunen | Peter Palfrader wea...@debian.org writes: | | On Wed, 05 May 2010, Arto Jantunen wrote: | Seriously speaking, to me it seems very clear that non-free firmware | will not be present on official installer images. Then again, the | installer team has made it very easy to

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tollef Fog Heen] It's not uncommon to install machines you are not physically close to and where plugging in hardware is therefore hard, so having it on the install media already is quite useful. Yes. It would allow one to create ones own installation CD with firmware included, and get the

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 06/05/2010 11:59, Tapio Lehtonen wrote: How does the user know, which firmware he/she is going to need? It is doable to have the files on usb-stick or some such, if it is known which files need to be there. Note that firwmare.tar.gz contains quite a lot of firmwares. And, afair, the

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
p...@debian.org wrote: I'm also wondering what people think about adding some firmware to our official installation media. I don't think it is needed. I do. I recently had to install Debian lenny on a HP ProLiant machine, which required bnx2 firmware for the network controller. Just downloaded

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2010-05-05, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote: This is still an annoying thing to handle. If you install machines at different locations regulary, this firmware crap is nothing but a pita. I can't see a reason why we should not be able to ship cd-images in non-free. I fully concur.

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:26:55PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: I can't see a reason why we should not be able to ship cd-images in non-free. What do you exactly mean by that? I can imagine at least two different interpretations of it: 1) Having different CD image sets: some sets containing

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote: Now try again, this time netinstalling an IBM Bladecenter with modern blades like HS21 or HS2. To which you have no physical access because it is in a different city. So the problem only occurs when installing on a host you

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Raphael Geissert
Josselin Mouette wrote: If there really was a need for it, such images would already exist. They do already exist and are labelled *Ubuntu. That's what people end up trying and installing after they waste their time installing Debian just to see that their wireless and/or ethernet card