Hi,
On Montag, 3. Dezember 2012, Ian Jackson wrote:
The anonymous donations we got offered were rejected (by us)
Why do you use scare quotes ?
for two reasons: a.) because they are not anonymous to me and b.) because I'm
not as fluent in english writing as others.
I'm sorry to keep making
Moray Allan writes (Re: Anonymous donation to Debconf 13):
Since your questions remain unanswered, I just want to say as one of
the DebConf Chairs that I think the questions are valid, but I
personally don't know any details about this that would help clear them
up.
Thanks very much for
Holger Levsen writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
On Montag, 3. Dezember 2012, Ian Jackson wrote:
I'm sorry to keep making trouble, but strings-attached offers of
substantial amounts of money from anonymous donors are a serious
matter. Even if the decision for
Jose Luis Rivas writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
I really thought people working on a project like Debian would understand
the meaning of the anonymous word. Then we blame government and
politicians.
I'm sorry, I don't follow your point. When politicians
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
According to Moray this proposed strings-attached donation was used as
an argument by some members of the Debconf team in favour of making the
decision favoured by the donor. That is wholly unacceptable. It
amounts exactly to the donors
On 04/12/12 17:10, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
According to Moray this proposed strings-attached donation was used as
an argument by some members of the Debconf team in favour of making the
decision favoured by the donor. That is wholly
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes:
a) Holger, a DebConf chair, was concerned about Le Camp's budget on 25
October (referring to it as GourmetConf) and unwilling to support it
http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20121025.200948.bca7a335.en.html
100k for food is just insane. We are
On 04/12/12 18:02, Russ Allbery wrote:
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes:
a) Holger, a DebConf chair, was concerned about Le Camp's budget on 25
October (referring to it as GourmetConf) and unwilling to support it
Hi,
I'm sick and saddened to read these mails and will not participate in any
further of this.
Also, I cannot stop thinking gigantic bikeshedding (mostly from people who
never build one). And based on rumors of what the bikeshed is supposed to
look, while not listening to the people who
Russ Allbery writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
The part that I'm missing here is what you felt should have been done
differently.
This is a reasonable question.
Let's assume that Debian has no control over the offering of the donation
(or loan) in the first
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 06:21:56PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
Russ Allbery writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anonymous donation to Debconf
13):
The part that I'm missing here is what you felt should have been done
differently.
This is a reasonable question.
Let's assume that Debian has no
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.orgwrote:
Hi,
I'm sick and saddened to read these mails and will not participate in any
further of this.
Also, I cannot stop thinking gigantic bikeshedding (mostly from people who
never build one). And based on rumors of what
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
Russ Allbery writes:
That seems to be exactly what happened.
No. My reading of Moray's message is that some members of the Debconf
teams used the existence of the donation as an argument in favour of
selecting Le Camp as the site.
At
Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 15:02 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
If these people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh-Morpork_Assassins%27_Guild
would use Debian it is perfectl in line with our social contract.
Thus I can't see a reason why they should not sponsor DebConf.
There’s a huge
Russ Allbery dijo [Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 10:42:47AM -0800]:
(... big snip ...)
What remedy or action are you looking for here? I don't think breaking
the anonymity of a donation that never happened really makes sense. Are
you looking for site selection to be re-opened? Further reassurance
TL;DR ⇒ I'm sick of this discussion. I'm calling the DebConf chairs to
vote _NOW_ to sign or repeal the contract. I'm voting to
sign. (Do we need consensus between the three? Can we vote?)
I will probably do some netiquette breaches in this post... So,
apologies to all, but I
Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 13:38 -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
People, (most of) the Swiss team is pissed with the lack of trust and
lack of respect we have been showing for months already, and that now
some very vocal outsiders (i.e. Debian people who are not involved in
this year's DebConf
Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com
Yes, please stop this nonsense!
OK, sure, but could everyone also please stop this sort of nonsense:
If you haven't been part of local team organizing a DebConf, you don't know
how frustrating and demoralizing this kind of discussion is. [...]
and (quoting
On 12/04/2012 10:36 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 13:38 -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
People, (most of) the Swiss team is pissed with the lack of trust and
lack of respect we have been showing for months already, and that now
some very vocal outsiders (i.e. Debian
Le mercredi 05 décembre 2012 à 08:27 +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a
écrit :
For a lot of people, your writing seems out of context.
The sponsorship brochure is linked in:
http://debconf13.debconf.org/helpus.xhtml
If other people find that it *had almost nothing to do* with DebConf,
please
Dear Giacomo,
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:27:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
On 12/04/2012 10:36 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Is the “outsiders” word also meaning to describe people who were asked
for sponsorship and discovered later that the brochure they were sent
had almost
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