Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Hi MJ, thanks for your feedback! On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 01:32:20PM +, MJ Ray wrote: Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote: Hold on :-) All you're discussing here already exists. FTP masters vet software that enters the archive, de facto deciding whether the associated licenses

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 02:16:59PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: I found a report of Richard Fontana's talk here: http://lwn.net/Articles/516896/ Oh, thanks, I forgot about that one. […] we are not doing a good job at documenting and explaining our choices […] This is unfortunate. But

Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Jackson
I volunteered to Stefano to try to summarise and synthesise the discussion about our inbound trademark licence policy. Here is the previous discussion head article: https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/02/msg00073.html In this message I'm going mostly to write things from the point of

Re: Position statements short of a GR - DPL statements

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Jackson
A little while ago I wrote this: There are often topics about where it would be useful to have a statement of position, or some recommendations for project participants (or for users or citizens). I'm speaking here primarily of nontechnical matters. Often these are in the remit of

authoritative list of DFSG-free licenses

2013-01-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 11:55:57PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: One thing first: The question if we change DFSG and documenting what we think is free (or not) are two entirely different things, and shouldn't be mixed together. I'm replying only to the documenting thing using my ftpmaster hat,

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Joerg Jaspert writes (Re: Validity of DFSG #10): But we would be happy to work with / lead / whatever-one-names it with a group of volunteers together. Exact details of how that works out are to be found, but im sure we can. If there are volunteers for it... I would volunteer. But: We have

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 05:26:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Joerg Jaspert writes (Re: Validity of DFSG #10): But we would be happy to work with / lead / whatever-one-names it with a group of volunteers together. Exact details of how that works out are to be found, but im sure we can. If

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Zacchiroli writes (Re: Validity of DFSG #10): I interpreted it in the sense that they are looking for volunteers to *document* past, present, and future decisions made by ftp-masters. You interpreted it in the sense that they are looking for volunteers to participate in the decision

Re: authoritative list of DFSG-free licenses

2013-01-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 13085 March 1977, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: The whole of ftp* agrees that it would be nice to have a place documenting this. So much so that we started something for it in 2009, see http://ftp-master.debian.org/licenses/ for it. Oo, that's awesome! I had no idea something like that