Re: gmane equivalent

2015-01-19 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On 01/16/2015 10:38 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Let me make a more concrete offer: > > On request, chiark will provide reading/posting access for DDs or DMs, > to the public groups chiark carries, including Debian list gateways. > > If you would like access to chiark's news server, please: > - emai

Re: Systemd

2015-01-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Christian Mueller writes: > I just tried to update to Jessie and couldn't remove systemd because > there were already dependencies to it which I could not ignore (I'm > using XFCE, thus this is not strictly a Gnome thing): systemd (the collection of software) is required for a lot of desktop env

Re: Systemd

2015-01-19 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun., 2015-01-19 at 09:13 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > The solution here would be either to convince upstreams not to depend on > policykit, or to provide (restore?) and package a sufficiently > functional implementation of policykit which does not depend on > libpam-systemd. Some people are tr

Re: Systemd

2015-01-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 01/19/2015 at 07:27 AM, Tomas Tintera wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:00:04 +0100, Christian Mueller wrote: > >> I just tried to update to Jessie and couldn't remove systemd >> because there were already dependencies to it which I could not >> ignore (I'm using XFCE, thus this is

Re: Systemd

2015-01-19 Thread Christian Mueller
That's the problem: I don't mind systemd's way of starting and stopping processes, that part is just fine. I just don't want the remaining bits with all their implications, one of which is that more and more programmers will write their code towards systems with systemd installed. Gnome already

Re: Systemd

2015-01-19 Thread Tomas Tintera
Hi. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:00:04 +0100, Christian Mueller wrote: > I just tried to update to Jessie and couldn't remove systemd because there > were already dependencies to it which I could not ignore (I'm using XFCE, > thus this is not strictly a Gnome thing): I could not speak for Debian, b

Re: Systemd

2015-01-19 Thread Christian Mueller
Hi Scott (and Debian at large), I just tried to update to Jessie and couldn't remove systemd because there were already dependencies to it which I could not ignore (I'm using XFCE, thus this is not strictly a Gnome thing): # apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd Reading package lists..