Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 1 mai 2017, 19.45:06 h CEST martin f krafft a écrit : > However, at the end of the day, all things considered, if Didier or > Person X would mark those items up, say, 5% to cover the incidentals > (not the time spent), then I wouldn't have a problem with that. Oh, just to make the record

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/05/17 06:35, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Daniel Pocock dijo [Mon, May 01, 2017 at 09:00:34AM +0200]: >> Can you give an example of shipping costs from Mexico to the US and >> Mexico to Brussels (for FOSDEM)? > > Bufff... It's a matter of checking the weight and asking DHL, Fedex, > and all of the

Sourcing fair-trade t-shirts (was: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts)

2017-05-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft [2017-05-01 21:37 +0200]: > Make it fair-trade and printed by people with disabilities, like > we did for DC15, and it was somewhere around $8. Since people have asked off-list: the contractor that Daniel Lange identified was Caritasverband für Stuttgart e.V. Bere

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Martin Steigerwald dijo [Mon, May 01, 2017 at 10:13:58PM +0200]: > > Make it fair-trade and printed by people with disabilities, like > > we did for DC15, and it was somewhere around $8. I'd still buy > > a shirt for $15 or so every now and then if it was a witty new > > design and a cut of the pro

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Daniel Pocock dijo [Mon, May 01, 2017 at 09:00:34AM +0200]: > Can you give an example of shipping costs from Mexico to the US and > Mexico to Brussels (for FOSDEM)? Bufff... It's a matter of checking the weight and asking DHL, Fedex, and all of their kin :-| > I assume that if they were sent to

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > If there's interest, I would _really_ recommend finding a trustable and > specialized partner (such as EnVenteLibre) to manage that, even if Debian is > to provide the initial funds and/or let a certain percentage go. Some of our exis

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-01 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 08:35:07AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:15 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > While it is nice to answer the way you did, here, Debian is missing yet > > another opportunity that other commercial distro would not. Maybe we > > should have a BoF at debconf

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:15 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > While it is nice to answer the way you did, here, Debian is missing yet > another opportunity that other commercial distro would not. Maybe we > should have a BoF at debconf Montreal about this. Please do register a BoF, I'd be happy to atte

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-01 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/14/2017 05:17 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Eric Lai (賴裕文) wrote: > >> This is Eric from Quanta Cloud Technology, Taiwan. >> I am in charge of server hardware certification. >> We would like to know if Debian can perform hardware certification as well. >> If suppor

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 01/05/17 21:33, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 07:45:06PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: >> For many of us, it goes without saying that we'd not take a margin >> off merchandise we create/sell for our project, mainly because of >> our idealism. >> >> However, at the end of the d

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
martin f krafft - 01.05.17, 21:37: > also sprach Adam Borowski [2017-05-01 21:33 +0200]: > > Note the data mentioned in this thread: > > * decent printed shirts cost $0.60 in a large batch (including the > > manufacturer's profit) > > > > * "very good quality" printed shirts made in a small bat

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Adam Borowski [2017-05-01 21:33 +0200]: > Note the data mentioned in this thread: > * decent printed shirts cost $0.60 in a large batch (including the > manufacturer's profit) > * "very good quality" printed shirts made in a small batch retail for $3 if > you skip most of the "rich

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 07:45:06PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > For many of us, it goes without saying that we'd not take a margin > off merchandise we create/sell for our project, mainly because of > our idealism. > > However, at the end of the day, all things considered, if Didier or > Person

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Didier 'OdyX' Raboud [2017-05-01 18:44 +0200]: > If there's interest, I would _really_ recommend finding > a trustable and specialized partner (such as EnVenteLibre) to > manage that, even if Debian is to provide the initial funds and/or > let a certain percentage go. For many of us,

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 1 mai 2017, 18.28:37 h CEST Daniel Pocock a écrit : > On 01/05/17 18:14, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > The cost structure for that one-time project made it possible to sell the > > Debian-branded knives for the same non-branded retail price. That's really > > cool, but also meant an ine

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 01/05/17 18:14, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le dimanche, 30 avril 2017, 17.42:53 h CEST Andrew M.A. Cater a écrit : >> Debian.ch did one very cool piece of merchandise - customised Victorinox >> knives with Debian logo. Fantastic, useful - and potentially illegal to >> carry but a lovely thi

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 30 avril 2017, 17.42:53 h CEST Andrew M.A. Cater a écrit : > Debian.ch did one very cool piece of merchandise - customised Victorinox > knives with Debian logo. Fantastic, useful - and potentially illegal to > carry but a lovely thing. I think it took a huge time to organise the > logi

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > The official view of the Debian project in the past seems to have been > that we leave the distribution of physical items up to our vendors, > for both merchandise and CD/DVD/BD/USB. PS: some of our merchandise vendors will do specific orders for

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On several occasions people have asked me about Debian t-shirts and the > polo shirts when I'm going to an event or after seeing a video where I > am wearing the polo shirt. Are you reminding those folks about our merchandise page? https://

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Bas Couwenberg
On 2017-05-01 09:00, Daniel Pocock wrote: Can you give an example of shipping costs from Mexico to the US and Mexico to Brussels (for FOSDEM)? Please note that for FOSDEM the bulk of the merchandise is provided by Debian France. Kind Regards, Bas

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 09:37:11PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > "Non-profit" means that Debian does not distribute surplus profits back > to people such as shareholders. It does not mean that Debian can not > make a profit on the sale of a t-shirt, as long as that profit is > re-invested in the o

Re: producing, distributing, storing Debian t-shirts

2017-05-01 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 01/05/17 05:36, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Daniel Pocock dijo [Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 01:53:49PM +0200]: >> >> Hi all, >> >> On several occasions people have asked me about Debian t-shirts >> and the polo shirts when I'm going to an event or after seeing a >> video where I am wearing the polo shirt.