On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:07:59PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>
> I think you're probably already away of the factual portions of my
> claims below, but I'm making them for the benefit of the broader
> audience.
>
> At 2017-12-01T18:11:34+0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > > No, t
At 2017-12-01T20:22:58+0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> Adam spoke about derivative users, not derivative developers, though.
[...]
> Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.
This is a false dilemma and I urge our community to reject it.
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Regards,
Branden
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Hi Adam,
I think you're probably already away of the factual portions of my
claims below, but I'm making them for the benefit of the broader
audience.
At 2017-12-01T18:11:34+0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > No, those derivatives are damage. While their hearts are in the right
> > > place, they c
Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff
in main"):
> It looks like we two are in agreement that all non-free software is bad,
> even if we differ wrt how acceptable using it is. But we disagree about
> the reason _why_:
>
> * I say that the primary reason i
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:53:22PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> (Dropping the crossposts. The stuff I want to reply to is probably
> material for -project.)
Thanks, crossposts are bad!
> Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by
> stuff in main"):
> > On Thu, Nov 3
Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by
stuff in main"):
> > > > Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.
> > >
> > > It never occurred to me that our downstreams could be considered as not
> > > being a part of our users. Is that a common
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 04:10:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > > Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
> > > > (whoever me is).
> > > Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.
> >
> > It never occurred to me that our downstreams could be considered a
Enrico Zini writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in
main"):
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 08:22:58PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > [Ian Jackson:]
> > > Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
> > > (whoever me is).
> > Our users are declared ou
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 08:22:58PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
> > (whoever me is).
> Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.
It never occurred to me that our downstreams could be considered as not
being
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:53:22PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > I would like to establish a way to prevent this. (There are even
> > > whole Debian derivatives who have as one of their primary goals,
> > > preventing this.
> >
> > No, those derivatives are damage. While their hearts are in th
(Dropping the crossposts. The stuff I want to reply to is probably
material for -project.)
Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff
in main"):
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I would like to establish a way to prevent this.
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