Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 07:48:40AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Of course, I don't think Norbert was literal characterizing the > situation as a gulag. I don't think anybody here thought he was. I > don't think Norbert expected anybody to have an image of him starving > to death or chilled in the

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 05:35:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > Whether DD -> DM demotions will happen again and are going to become a > new tool for solving social conflicts is an important decision that > needs an open discussion where conesnsus is being sought. Unsurprisingly there are

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-27 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
This entire thread is so cringy, this is likely my last reply. On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 9:31 PM Norbert Preining wrote: > > Paul, > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote: > > Please, all, get some perspective and stop with the comparisons to labor > > camps, targeted killings, prisons

Re: Censorship in Debian

2018-12-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Paul R. Tagliamonte dijo [Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:36:08AM -0500]: > > So where is the difference to a closed military court or gulag general? > > I strongly encourage you to read about Gulags and understand for both > mlitary tribunal and prison camp, the result is often death. Debian can not >

Re: anti-harassment team membership concerns

2018-12-27 Thread Daniel Lenharo de Souza
Em 27-12-2018 02:56, Daniel Pocock escreveu: Hi all, I have serious concerns about the current membership of the anti-harassment team. Specifically, I notice that Molly recently joined the team and she is also a member of the Outreach team. [...] Regards, Daniel -- Debian Developer

Re: anti-harassment team membership concerns

2018-12-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/12/18 12:04, Jonathan Carter wrote: > On 2018/12/27 06:56, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Specifically, I notice that Molly recently joined the team and she is >> also a member of the Outreach team. >> >> This is not a personal attack on Molly, I simply believe that for >> various reasons being in

Re: anti-harassment team membership concerns

2018-12-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/12/18 12:30, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > > Yet you fail to provide a shred of evidence here. My first guess would be > that you don't have any. In the case of this anti-harassment thread, as I clearly stated already, it is not about evidence and is not about Molly personally, it is about

Re: (evidence) conspiracies and character assassination

2018-12-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/12/18 07:39, Geert Stappers wrote: > } He threatened to ... > > Next time such thing happens, ask for clarifycation. > To get sure the recieved "threat" was transmitted as threat. > > Adding a "why?" does help. Doing something with an answer to the why > will get both parties further. > > >

Re: anti-harassment team membership concerns

2018-12-27 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le jeudi 27 décembre 2018 à 05:56:50+0100, Daniel Pocock a écrit : > > Hi all, > > I have serious concerns about the current membership of the > anti-harassment team. > > Specifically, I notice that Molly recently joined the team and she is > also a member of the Outreach team. > > This is not

Re: anti-harassment team membership concerns

2018-12-27 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2018/12/27 06:56, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Specifically, I notice that Molly recently joined the team and she is > also a member of the Outreach team. > > This is not a personal attack on Molly, I simply believe that for > various reasons being in both teams at the same time is incompatible for

Re: conspiracies and character assassination in the name of Debian?

2018-12-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/12/18 11:17, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Dear Daniel. > > Daniel Pocock - 27.12.18, 05:41: >> On 21/12/18 09:25, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> I agree with Russ that your framing of this is absolutely abhorrent. >>> Your continued justification of it is digging a bigger hole. I beg >>> you,

Re: conspiracies and character assassination in the name of Debian?

2018-12-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear Daniel. Daniel Pocock - 27.12.18, 05:41: > On 21/12/18 09:25, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > I agree with Russ that your framing of this is absolutely abhorrent. > > Your continued justification of it is digging a bigger hole. I beg > > you, please take a step back and reconsider your approach