Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-25 Thread Xavier
Le 25/12/2019 à 21:18, Charles Plessy a écrit : > Le Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 11:11:43AM -0500, Scott Kitterman a écrit : >> >> More generally, New is being processed as fast as it can given available >> volunteer time. Any delays are not reflective of a lack of value placed on >> people's contribut

possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-25 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi, Some personal opinions as one of the current batch of FTP trainees. * The ftp team might be in a (somewhat) negative loop from the sustainable development aspect. Let's first list a couple of facts: (0) There are a small group of DDs working as ftp-master. Their time and energy are lim

Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-25 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Dec 25 2019, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 11:11:43AM -0500, Scott Kitterman a écrit : >> >> More generally, New is being processed as fast as it can given available >> volunteer time. Any delays are not reflective of a lack of value placed on >> people's contributi

Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-25 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Dec 25 2019, Jonathan Carter wrote: > On 2019/12/24 20:08, John Goerzen wrote: > >> But at the same time, I feel that the project as a whole isn't really >> taking this problem very seriously. > > That is true, probably mostly because many people don't really > understand that there is

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Carter writes: > I understand the nature of trolls and not wanting to feed them, but it > is entirely possible to denounce them without giving them fuel, even > though it can be like walking a tightrope at times. It also matters who the person is. A troll in the most classic Usenet sen

Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-25 Thread Utkarsh Gupta
Hiya, On 26/12/19 3:15 am, Jonathan Carter wrote: > On 2019/12/24 20:08, John Goerzen wrote: > >> But at the same time, I feel that the project as a whole isn't really >> taking this problem very seriously. > That is true, probably mostly because many people don't really > understand that there i

Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks

2019-12-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 12:44:44PM +0100, Santa Claus wrote: > Download debian-private today thanks to IPFS > https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNgEAYhpb3djgmZWcdNM2jN3epDmfGym89U41Jt2zr9tL Nothing says "I'm taking a stand against bullying" quite like repeatedly republishing people's private correspondence f

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/12/24 17:01, Martina Ferrari wrote: > I mean not letting it pass and "not feeding the troll", downright > denouncing hate speech wherever it appears, in the strongest terms. > Sometimes that means calling people names or being aggressive, risking a > mailing list ban, a punch in the street,

Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/12/24 20:08, John Goerzen wrote: > But at the same time, I feel that the project as a whole isn't really > taking this problem very seriously. That is true, probably mostly because many people don't really understand that there is a problem. The NEW queue waits are tough, but there are al

Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 11:11:43AM -0500, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > > More generally, New is being processed as fast as it can given available > volunteer time. Any delays are not reflective of a lack of value placed on > people's contributions. Hi Scott, John, everybody, In the past I prop

Re: I get to hope

2019-12-25 Thread Rhonda D'Vine
   Dear Andy and all.  There is one big issue with your approach: People like Gerardo or Norbert don't follow those basic rules. "If they go low, we go high" doesn't work with people who don't care about going low. Norbert is regularly demanding something from others that he clearly is not willing

Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks

2019-12-25 Thread Ansgar
Zlatan writes: > Can we ban this email account (and be persistent with such effort)? We should, but it's playing whack-a-mole as one can just again create a new, anonymous mail account anywhere. Targeted abusive behavior is much harder to get rid of than spam as most blocking systems can be worke

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Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks

2019-12-25 Thread Zlatan
Can we ban this email account (and be persistent with such effort)? Z On December 25, 2019 9:19:40 AM GMT+01:00, Santa Claus wrote: > > Message d'origine >> De : Ansgar >> À : Paul R. Tagliamonte >> Sujet : Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks >> Date : 25/12/2019 08:48:25 E

Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks

2019-12-25 Thread Santa Claus
Message d'origine > De : Ansgar > À : Paul R. Tagliamonte > Sujet : Re: Merry Christmas more debian private leaks > Date : 25/12/2019 08:48:25 Europe/Paris > Copie à : debian-project@lists.debian.org > > Hi Paul, > > "Paul R. Tagliamonte" writes: > > Very sad and disturbed by all of