Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Adrian Bunk dijo [Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:46:18PM +0300]: > Why are you requiring key signing at all when it has no defined semantics? > > Many DDs check only the government issued photo ID for signing a key and > this is also how keysigning parties work, but if this is considered > optional

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hello Enrico, and thanks for bringing the discussion over here. Enrico Zini dijo [Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 05:54:21PM +0200]: > Hello, > > we have people approaching Debian with a lack of GPG signatures, and we > generally cannot ask them to travel and meet other developers in person > to get their

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-08 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Olek, On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 6:36 PM Olek Wojnar wrote: > > You are attributing motivations to me that I do not have. More significantly, you are not responsible for "our tendency to suck every discussion into such a long-term thing that it immobilizes us." Sam is right with his general

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-08 Thread Eldon Koyle
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 5:04 PM Sam Hartman wrote: > Until you have a concrete suggestion, you're derailing the discussion. > Enrico and a number of people sound like they would like a way forward > that works for people trying to become DMs today. > When I hear things like "eventually have a

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-08 Thread Olek Wojnar
Sam, I do not appreciate your aspersions and I think your hostile attitude is completely uncalled for. I don't know why me sharing my thoughts on this subject has triggered you into lashing out. On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 19:04 Sam Hartman wrote: > > Sometimes that is necessary; some ideas need to

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Olek" == Olek Wojnar writes: > TL;DR: While there may be improvements to be found in a > completely different approach to identity, let us not let the > scope of the discussion broaden that far, so we can make > progress today. Olek>I respectful disagree on this point. This

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-08 Thread Olek Wojnar
Hi Sam, On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 11:46 Sam Hartman wrote: > > TL;DR: While there may be improvements to be found in a completely > different approach to identity, let us not let the scope of the > discussion broaden that far, so we can make progress today. > I respectful disagree on this point.

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-08 Thread Sam Hartman
TL;DR: While there may be improvements to be found in a completely different approach to identity, let us not let the scope of the discussion broaden that far, so we can make progress today. > "Olek" == Olek Wojnar writes: Olek> TL;DR: I think without some link back to real world