Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Gard Spreemann
Hi. I do share your worry and your overall sentiment, but: Julian Andres Klode writes: > For example, people could be encouraged to batch bug fixes into larger > uploads rather than uploading them immediately, use compression > algorithms that emit less CO2. I suspect that if every DD who spent

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Davide Prina writes: > So, I think that if Debian must think about climate change, probably it > must be focused on energy efficiency to gain more results. I agree that energy efficiency is probably the place where we could most directly contribute as a project while focusing on the things that

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Steffen Möller
On 13.04.22 17:29, Steffen Möller wrote: On 13.04.22 17:01, Sandro Tosi wrote: While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do? please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 11:01:04AM -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon > > neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do? > please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment > on the carbo

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 11:01:04AM -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon > > neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do? > > please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment > on the car

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Steffen Möller
On 13.04.22 17:01, Sandro Tosi wrote: While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do? please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment on the carbon neutrality proposal). Debian

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Sandro Tosi
> While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon > neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do? please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment on the carbon neutrality proposal). Debian has one goal: provide a universal oper

Re: several questions /Debian Source Code build 11.3/related to Unrestricted Encryption Source Code Notification Commodity

2022-04-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 04:44:02PM +0300, Екатерина Лапшина wrote: > Good afternoon! > > Good afternoon, Ekaterina > > We are planning to use Debian Source Code build 11.3 (the “Software”) in > Russia and have several questions related to Unrestricted Encryption Source > Code Notification Commo

several questions /Debian Source Code build 11.3/related to Unrestricted Encryption Source Code Notification Commodity

2022-04-13 Thread Екатерина Лапшина
Good afternoon! We are planning to use Debian Source Code build 11.3 (the “Software”) in Russia and have several questions related to Unrestricted Encryption Source Code Notification Commodity ( https://www.debian.org/legal/notificationforarchive, “Notification”) and export restrictions of the U

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Steffen Möller
The idea is good. There is Debian as an organisation that could immediately shift activity towards renewable resources. There are carbon neutral compute centers. And there is something close to carbon neutral travel if investing extra money in these tree planing institutions. An interesting refe

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:35:27PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > Hi > > it just occurred to me that despite the climate crisis about to > destroy us all we don't really have anything in place to monitor > and reduce our carbon emissions. > > I believe we need to commit ourselves to reducing